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Old 11-02-2011, 05:56 PM
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Biodiesel??

Hey guys my base started selling this stuff. Was wondering if its any good or stay away from it lol. I use shell from a truck stop with howes fuel treatment now. My truck loves that stuff so unless its better (not just cheaper) I might get it. Any thoughts on this?
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Old 11-02-2011, 06:01 PM
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There are so many variables.. read up on the bio-diesel section. Basically you've gotta trust the guy making it and make sure he has proof there is no drop out. OR buy yourself a couple gallons and do a couple tests on it, drop out test, water test.. etc..
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There's two types of Bio-Diesel, pure soy based (plant based) and animal based (mixture of plant and animal fats), find out which one that station carries.

Second, you never want to go straight from ULSD to Bio-Diesel. Bio-Diesel is a great fuel and it will clean the crap out of your engine, the thing is, you want to start small with a B5 (5% Biodiesel) for 1 full tank, then change out both fuel filters, then run 2 more tanks of B5 and change your fuel filters again (if needed the second time). Bio will clean the living snot out of your system, while at the same time it has a change of clogging your system with all the crap it cleans out so you want to keep a sharp eye on your fuel filters.

After running 2 - 3 tanks of B5 you can move up to B10 (10% biodiesel) for a few tanks, check the filters, then move up to B15, rinse and repeat. From what I've been able to find, the highest our trucks can run "stock" without any modifications is B20 (20% biodiesel). If all they sell is B20, you'll have to break the calculator out and pump what you need of the B20 to get to that 5% mark then just fill the rest of your tank up with regular ULSD.

Also, there's been mixed results with using fuel additives along with Biodiesel, personally, I think the only time an additive is needed is when you're running B10 or higher and it's cold out (additive for anti-gelling needed).
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Funny I just started the same kinda process. Running my first tank of 1/2 B20 and 1/2 normal to get the system used to it. Unfortunately, or fortunately, I just changed the fuel filters 100 miles ago... BUT figure thats a small price to pay to try to change the system a little bit.

I most likely won't be able to run full B20 anyways because there are only 2 stations that sell it and both are 30miles out of my way, but wanted to run a tank or 2 through before winter and change the filters 1 more time just to clean the systems out.

I'll see what kinda difference I notice in the filters but so far, I think I am noticing a smoother running enging and better startups.
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I ran my truck on B99 for 2 seasons with nothing but good stuff to say. I didn't have to change 23 fuel filters or anything else dramatic. the only issue I had was when it got cold early and I waxed a filter. Due to the cold weather issues I just went on and converted the truck to run on WVO.
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I've been wanting to give bio a shot for a while now but haven't been able to find anyone in Utah who carries it. All the stations on the biofuel locator website have stopped carrying it. If I can find some, how much could I safely use in the winter? B20 ok or just need to use anti-gel adative? I know this should probably be in the bio section, but there's not much activity over there...
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I've been wanting to give bio a shot for a while now but haven't been able to find anyone in Utah who carries it. All the stations on the biofuel locator website have stopped carrying it. If I can find some, how much could I safely use in the winter? B20 ok or just need to use anti-gel adative? I know this should probably be in the bio section, but there's not much activity over there...
It really depends on the base stock that the Biodiesel was made from. A pure veggie oil bio will go lower than a bio that includes animal fats. I have heard of guys running bio from canola oil at sub zero temps. The stuff available to me commercially I wouldn'd run below 40*.
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Old 11-03-2011, 09:27 AM
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when I first used b5 I used diesel kleen white. I used b5 on rare ocations. Then the station switchd to b20. I have had no issues using b5 or b20. If you had bad fuel and went to b20 I can see the system having issues.
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I run B99 all spring, summer and into fall. I change my filter in the spring and thats it. THere is no need to keep changing filters every 2 tanks of fuel working your way up to what level bio you want to run.
Do this... run 2 tanks of bio thru filters that you are about to change, change filter and leave it alone.
I used to also go back and forth between regular ULSD and B20... again no issues
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ford told me i was not able to run bio diesel of any kind in the 6.0... i'm wanting to try it if ya'll are having success.
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