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post #1 of 16 Old 11-01-2011, 09:37 AM Thread Starter
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Cummins instead of bulletproofing 6.0?

Has anyone done the swap instead of spending money on the 6.0. Even after the bullet proofing, there is still a chance that there could be issues. I have not had any bad luck so far...

I love my 2007, but if it starts to get all of the ususal 6.0 symptoms, I wonder if I am better to put the money into a Cummins.

What does it cost to really bulletproof the 6.0? $6000??
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$3500 Cummins swap kit (fordcummins.com)
$2800-$5800 used 6bt H.O 5.9 Cummins 325hp/600ftlb (stock)

Just a thought...

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It's not a bad idea. I might just do that when my 7.3 dies.

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Guess nobody likes to talk about that on here....lol

What I really want to know is how much am I going to spend to make the 6.0 as strong (both power and reliability) as the Cummins.
I want a good working daily driver, that gets ok mileage and is faster than a stocker..
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if you think you can do a cummins swap with 6 grand... you've got another thing coming....
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You're looking at 12-15k to properly swap a cummins into a ford. Assuming you want everything to work as if it was fitting stock.

Cummins is a great engine though...

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A forum I visit around me a guy did it. Hes a big diesel pull truck guy. He bought one with a blown motor and bought a older cummins 12 valve truck as a donor. By the time he sold all the good 6.0 parts he still shelled about about 5 grand. He rebuilt the 12 valve himself before he put it in also.

Big thing he said was get a whole donor truck for 3 grand and and it will already have over 200K on it. Rebuild the cummins your looking at 4 grand for a lightly modded 12 valve. So you have about 7 already.

By the time your all said and done around 10 grand will probably get you there.

He said though that it was the best thing he ever did, and will keep the truck till he dies now.
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For the record..... I never thought I could do a swap for $6000... I thought I would drop 6 into the powerstroke to fix all of the things that will likely show up if I keep it.

Im looking at $8000 just for the Cummins and the swap parts.. not including the labor to install. ( i dont have the time or shop to do it myself)

If this is the route I go, I'll have to keep the truck forever....lol, and I dont know if I love any vehicle that much!!
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My vote would be to get the 6.0L done up. What happens if the Cummins motor or related components breaks or has issues driving across the country. Who works on it Ford, Dodge? As far as the price the last swap I heard of was around $14,000 when it was all said and done with all the bugs worked out.
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From the looks of your first post, you plan on swapping in a cr cummins which is likely going to cost double of bullet-proofing your 6.0 to do it right. My problem here is people think they put a cummins in and your good to go forever. If you think a cummins is problem free especially the vp44 and cr trucks, you are kidding yourself.
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IMHO, studs aren't a neccessity if you have the BPD kit. Once you take the main culprits for HG failures out of the engine (like the BPD kit does), you shouldn't have to worry anout them unless you go bigger


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