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My new baby as of friday!!

Here it is. 06 CC Lariat FX4.

1st things first. I want to put a 2-2.5" lift/level on it. I'm looking for the spacers for the front, rear block, and either the ajustable track bar or how to adjust the stock track bar. I thought i saw something on this in another thread.

2nd thing... I'm confused on tuners. I want something that i can use out of the box. I'm not that concerned with custom tunes. I'm not try to squeeze ever ounce of power out of the truck. I do want my trans to hold up so tranny adjustments are required.

3rd thing. ERG delete... does it have to be done if using a tuner?

Thanks
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Here is the deal with the 6.0. Any good tuner (person writing your tunes) is not going to give you a tune that is going to tear up your truck. There are trucks all over the place running 400-420 rwhp with 750-800 rwtq all day long without problems.

Yes the 6.0 is known to blow head gaskets. This is why it happens. The Ford Gold coolant contains silicates. The silicates are not able to handle high EGT's generated by a good load or relatively high boost when they run through the EGR cooler. They break down into a gell like sludge and fall out of suspension. This crud gets caught up in the tiny coolant passageways of the oil cooler. As the cooler clogs up it restricts coolant flow to the egr cooler. Now the egr cooler doesn't have enough coolant to carry off the heat generated by high EGT's. The limited amount of coolant in the egr cooler flash boils causing high pressure in the cooling system and the truck pukes coolant from the degass bottle due to the pressure. (it has to go somewhere)
Your uninformed Powerstroke owner is not monitoring his coolant temps and oil temps so he doesn't know whats going on and he keeps driving it this way. The problem gets worse, the pressure causes the egr cooler to rupture. Now the egr cooler is leaking coolant into the intake manifold which then runs into the cylinders. Again the high combustion temps cause the coolant to vaporize. This causes unacceptably high cylinder pressure, the TTY head bolts stretch due to the add'l pressure and there go your head gaskets.

Ok now you know the problem. Here's the cure. Get a good engine monitoring solution like the Edge Insight so that you can monitor your ECT and EOT. If those temps get more than 15* apart with normal cruising when at normal operating temperature your oil cooler is clogging up. Rebuild it now to prevent all that down stream damage from occurring. Flush that Ford Gold coolant crap out of your engine with a couple bottles of Restore. This is made specifically to clean out that silicate residue. Now refill it with a silicate free Cat EC-1 rated ELC coolant. This removes the silicates that clog the oil cooler from the equation. If you live in an area where you don't have smog inspections delete the egr system. If you can't delete it replace the egr cooler with the cooler manufactured by Bulletproof Diesel. This is vastly superior to the Ford oem egr cooler and it will not fail on you. If you find that you need to replace head gaskets replace the TTY head bolts with ARP studs and use black onyx (Victor Reinz) head gaskets. If you have to replace the egr cooler always replace the oil cooler. That is the source of the problem.

Now that you have addressed the common problems that scare the he11 out of people, get an SCT tuner (i like the X3) and install some custom tunes and drive the heck out of it. DO NOT baby it. The Powerstroke hates this and will rebel with turbo issues.

Turbo issues are also common repair points with the 6.0. People like to complain that it's because the VGT turbos are pieces of junk. This is not so. The VGT vanes in the turbo need to be exercised regularly. This means making them go through their full range of motion. So put your foot in it regularly and let it see some full boost runs. That will keep your VGT vanes from getting all sooted up and freezing up because of the soot. Again, that is what happens when you baby it. Put your foot in it and you will have less problems. Lay out of it and try to milk it for mileage like you would a gasser and you're going to have turbo issues. Don't let it sit either. That is also the kiss of death to the turbo. The unison ring rusts up and again you have turbo problems. So now that you know you need to give your turbo a regular work out to keep it happy, give it a proper cool down as well. Just whipping into your parking place and shutting it down will lead to coking the bearings and again major turbo issues. Running a good synthetic oil will help here immensely because it handles heat so much better and resists coking. But always let your turbo have time to cool down. This is one of the reasons you need a Pyrometer (EGT gauge). Let the EGT come down to 350* before shutting your truck off. This only takes a couple of minutes, especially if you take it easy on it for the last couple minutes of your trip. If this is too much hassle for you get a turbo timer that will automatically delay shutdown when you turn off the key to allow the turbo to cool down.

Injectors. Ford's HEUI injection system fires the injectors with High Pressure Oil, to the tune of 4,000psi at Wide Open Throttle. Maintenance is critical here so you can not let your oil maintenance slide like you can on a gasser. It will kill your injectors. The injectors also are known to suffer from something that we call stiction. That is when the oil side plunger of the injector hangs up or sticks when cold until the truck warms up. I believe this is caused by varnish buildup that is common to dino oils, especially those containing paraffin. Using a good synthetic oil will take care of that because it actually cleans the engine as it lubricates. If you do find yourself with some injector stiction add a couple of bottles of Rev-X to your oil. It has cleared up 99.9% of the trucks it has been used on. 2 bottles run around $70. A new injector is about $250-$290. Be anal about keeping your oil clean and fresh and changing your fuel filters regularly. The other thing that kills injectors is low fuel pressure. The fuel pressure needs to stay above 45psi at all times and is typically set around 52 psi from the factory. Well the factory fuel pressure regulator spring is weak and looses it's tension over time and can't maintain adequate fuel pressure. There is an updated rebuild kit that uses a better, stronger spring. Installing this spring will bring your fuel pressure up to about 62 psi and solve that. Get a fuel pressure gauge. It's important.

So that covers the frequent complaints with the 6.0. They are all well known at this point as are the solutions. Does it suck we have to fix Ford's blunders? Heck yes it does. But again we know how and once done you will have a very reliable robust truck that is well worth the effort. So address the issues as you can and enjoy your truck. It is a dynamite vehicle. I love mine.
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I read that exact thing earlier today. Doesn't answer my questions though. Thanks for the help.
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When's the baby shower?
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Yeah. I need to make a list lol. Funny thing is. the wifey's pregnant as we speak for our 2nd child lol.
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Here it is. 06 CC Lariat FX4.

1st things first. I want to put a 2-2.5" lift/level on it. I'm looking for the spacers for the front, rear block, and either the ajustable track bar or how to adjust the stock track bar. I thought i saw something on this in another thread.

2nd thing... I'm confused on tuners. I want something that i can use out of the box. I'm not that concerned with custom tunes. I'm not try to squeeze ever ounce of power out of the truck. I do want my trans to hold up so tranny adjustments are required.

3rd thing. ERG delete... does it have to be done if using a tuner?

Thanks
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SCT x3 with custom tunes is really the only way to go. They are affordable and you can get a tune for your truck, not necessarily one for everyone elses also, which is great considering they are definitely all different and utilize for a variety of reason. I just got the SRL tune from Matt @ Gearhead and I REALLY enjoy it and the increase in MPG.

Deleting the EGR is a great idea just to get rid of the possible point of fault. Tuners will not turn off the flow of coolant through your EGR, they will only turn off the check engine light that pops up when you stop the flow of coolant through a plug or EGR delete.
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I read that exact thing earlier today. Doesn't answer my questions though. Thanks for the help.
Well it kind of does answer it....

But first off leveling kits are a dime a dozen - contact stealth automotive, I think I saw him post a good deal on one.

Next - tuners, you should be asking your question the other way "I want only custom tunes even though I am not trying to squeeze every ounce out of the truck" Now THAT we can answer. I would contact vivian at quick tricks or matt at gearhead and tell them the goal of the truck. Custom tuning is going to be the BEST option for your truck to ensure on not breaking things like transmission, there is no canned tuner that I know of that is good on the transmission or taylored for every specific truck, they are very generic and just not the best way to tune, IMO better off leaving it stock than canned tunes. Also I doubt you have head studs yet so the tuners I listed above can give you a nice taylored tune to help with the fact you dont have head studs.

Last is an EGR delete a must with a tuner, absolutely not, plenty of guys running tuned with EGR coolers in place. In fact there is no real performance benefit to removing it, its more to keep the oil cooler/egr cooler problems that plague the 6.0 at bay.

Hope that helps.

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Here it is. 06 CC Lariat FX4.

1st things first. I want to put a 2-2.5" lift/level on it. I'm looking for the spacers for the front, rear block, and either the ajustable track bar or how to adjust the stock track bar. I thought i saw something on this in another thread.

You can not adjust the stock track bar, you have to get an adjustable bar.

2nd thing... I'm confused on tuners. I want something that i can use out of the box. I'm not that concerned with custom tunes. I'm not try to squeeze ever ounce of power out of the truck. I do want my trans to hold up so tranny adjustments are required.

Wrong. You want an SCT X3 with custom tunes. The canned tunes are worthless and custom tunes are the only way to go on the 6.0. Ignore this at your own peril.

3rd thing. ERG delete... does it have to be done if using a tuner?

An EGR Delete is a good idea if you can. If not get a Bulletproof Diesel egr cooler. There is nothing good about piping sooty exhaust back into the cylinders. The tuner can turn off the CEL if you delete the egr.

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Congrats on the new truck.
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I read that exact thing earlier today. Doesn't answer my questions though. Thanks for the help.
It means, the first thing that should be done with a 6.0 is gauges/monitor! End of story!!!

You'll be throwing money at stuff like lifts and tires, when in reality, your motor could be suffering a slow death!!

You need to check the health of the motor, this will tell you if you need to put your hard earned money into fixing the issues that could of prevented your motor from becoming a statistic. What good is all the bling if you end up with blown headgaskets, destroyed injectors and trans issues.

SCT with custom tunes is the way to go with the 6.0, even if your not looking for huge HP/TQ output. Other tuners use generic tunes, and are a one size fits all. Not really the best for your trans motor. It's your baby, why wouldn't you want the best for it.

Just about all of the threads point you toward gauges/monitor first, there's a reason for this....... Keep reading, you'll figure it out.
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Sure does. So the egr delete is a must. Thats one down. SCT x3 is two down. leveling kit i still need some clarification on. I'm thinking 2-2.5 spacer in the front with a bigger block in the rear. Thats all good. but what do i do with the offcentered front end? Were should i be asking this question or can u recommend a good contact. Thanks for the help fellas.
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