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Driveway "to-do" list. What'd I miss?

Alright so having been a long time lurker, poster and researcher and after 4 months of searching I've finally found "my" truck.

2006 F250 King Ranch FX4 with 101k on the odo. I had my Edge CTS in hand for the test drive so I was able to test temp deltas, voltages, etc prior to purchase. Overall the truck is in great shape except for that stupid Airaid CAI the previous owner had on it oh well.

Cruising at 65 on level ground (102 outside temp):
ECT - 198
EOT - 201 (fluctuate between 2 - 4 degrees off ECT)
ICP at idle - 589
FICM - KOEO 48v Cranking 48v Idle 47.5v - 48v

Luckily the truck was a one owner truck so there's pretty detailed records of it between oil changes and coolant flushes.

My to do list for this weekend:
Order coolant filter
Oil change (T6 synthetic) w/ Motorcraft filter
Fuel filters change w/ Motorcraft filters
Order BPD EGR Delete
Replace glow plugs (getting a glow plug 4 CEL and records show they were last done 42k miles ago)

Couple of things I want to do but don't have the info "at hand":
Front / Rear Dif and Transfer case fluid swap (recommendations?)
Tranny flush? No records of it ever being done.

Long term I'm planning on getting the ARP studs and full on bullet proof done but for the most part the above is my weekend warrior to do list. Anything I missed?

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I also noticed on the truck it has a Bully Dog EGT probe on it, is there any way to get this to work with the CTS? I'm doubting so since the probe is just a two wire lead instead of a plug like used on the CTS. Does anyone know if the Edge pyro will fit the same bung fitting?

The only things I could find to identify the EGT Probe is the sticker on the wire that had the following numbers:
015-082-060
W14455

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DC Power 270 Amp Alternator
Airaid CAI
Edge CTS
Bushwackers
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T6 & Rev-X

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Truck sounds like it's in good shape. I'd flush the cooling system and swap to a Cat EC-1 rated ELC or Rotella's new Ultra ELC if you can find it.

For the trans go with the Mercon LV and have the dealer do it with their machine, it the only practical way to completely flush the old fluid out. Amsoil and Redline have alternatives if that interests you with the nod going to Redline's D6.

Amsoil is a good choice for the diff's and the transfer case, so does Mobil1.

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Thanks for the info! From what I can gather the trannies have 2 filters (1 internal pan filter and 1 external) correct? I'm taking it the service at the dealership with the power flush includes both of those being replaced? I called my local dealership and they stated their "full tranny service" costs $185 does this sound about right? I forgot to clarify with them if that included the filters being replaced as well :/

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Airaid CAI
Edge CTS
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Generally they don't replace the filters. They don't drop the pan with their power flush. I was told it flushed any debris out of the internal filter and there was no need to change it. Their price for the little external filter is ridiculous. I'd get one from dieselfiltersonline and change it myself after you get it back.

That seems about the going price.
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Excellent thanks. Those external filters are what a .5 qt capacity? Do they need to be prefilled or primed prior to installation?

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No prime is necessary on the external filter.
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Honestly, I don't think paying $185 for a "power flush" is really worth it. How can you flush EVERYTHING without changing the filters? Doesn't make sense to me.

I'd advise another way if you want to save some money (and get the satisfaction of doing it yourself).

Buy 10qts Mercron LV from the dealer (~$6/qt)
Buy the FT-144 and FT-145 Motorcraft trans filters from Oreilly Auto (if you've got one close; they're $42 for BOTH) or DieselFiltersOnline.

Drain the pan
Remove pan bolts and drop pan
Pull out old internal filter (just pulls down)
Install new internal filter
Clean pan and reinstall
Remove housing for external filter (its like a 22mm)
Remove and replace external filter
Clean housing and reinstall

Fill your truck with approx 9qts of fluid. Let it run and check the level.

If you're really concerned about getting most/all of the fluid, drain the fluid again after say 1,000 miles and refill with another 9-10 qts.

If all Ford is doing for $185 is "flushing" and refilling the fluid, even if you have to buy 20qts of Mercron LV, you're only spending ~$120+tax. Then, for only ~$42 more, you're getting new filters, something you WON'T get with the Ford powerflush.

Just a thought; The trans service is so ridiculously easy on these trucks I wouldn't spend the extra $$ to have the stealership do anything with it!

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Yeah that was my concern as well about the power flush as the old mentallity regarding tranny flushes was you always replace the filters or else the flush will just knock everything loose.

Thanks for the info Brian. That's the route I was thinking of going and it looks pretty simple. Do the trannies have a cork / paper / rubber pan gasket or is it a liquid gasket (i.e. PROSEAL)?

Regarding the fuel filters, I was checking on dieselfilters and it has the FD-4616 which appears to be 2 filters based on the picture. So I take it I only need to buy the one $48 filter set to replace both fuel filters correct?

Regarding the oil filters on dieselfilters, is there a difference between the FL2016 and the FL2016W?

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2006 King Ranch CCSB FX4
MBRP 5" Turbo Back
DC Power 270 Amp Alternator
Airaid CAI
Edge CTS
Bushwackers
Recon mirror lenses
Dieselsite Coolant Filter
T6 & Rev-X

Things to consider about owning a 6.0
Oil Cooler Write Up
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Yeah that was my concern as well about the power flush as the old mentallity regarding tranny flushes was you always replace the filters or else the flush will just knock everything loose.

Thanks for the info Brian. That's the route I was thinking of going and it looks pretty simple. Do the trannies have a cork / paper / rubber pan gasket or is it a liquid gasket (i.e. PROSEAL)?

Regarding the fuel filters, I was checking on dieselfilters and it has the FD-4616 which appears to be 2 filters based on the picture. So I take it I only need to buy the one $48 filter set to replace both fuel filters correct?

Regarding the oil filters on dieselfilters, is there a difference between the FL2016 and the FL2016W?
The pan gasket is a reusable rubber style.

Both fuel filtersm come in the kit.

Not sure on the filter difference but I always run the 2016.

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EGR Delete
ARP Studs
All updated Ford internals
Edge Insight CTS2
Swamp's 58V FICM
SCT X3
TGC 2.5" Level Kit
Zerex EC-1 ELC
08+ Step Tailgate
08+ All Power Mirrors (Factory Functions, too)
2011 Rear Bumper
B&W Turnover Ball
8oz Stanadyne Performance w/each fillup
HOW TO: Install & Wire 2008+ PF/PT mirrors and making them work/look factory
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