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Old 05-25-2011, 06:32 PM
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A short while ago I bought a new to me used 03 6.0. I had a bullydog programmer laying around that I installed. Nice power increase. I got a great deal on a edge attitude with monitor. I pulled the bullydog out and installed the edge so I could check my oil cooler condition. This checked out as good but the edge offered a poor performance gain. I rec ently posted this on here and found out that the bullydog leaves a footprint that may effect the operation of the edge tuner and that I should get ford to reflash my computer. Last night I did an oil change to 5/40 T6 rotella and through in a bottle of hotshots secret for good measure. Today I ran into town with the truck, driving maybe a half hour. I go to leave town and have to floor it to get into traffic. The truck took off just like it would if I had the bullydog tuner in it. In the half hour drive home I did my best to not get a speeding ticket. So???? Did my computer retrain itself to work with the edge tuner or did this bottle of hotshot do wonders for my engine. It must be the computer, Right?? The engine runs fine with no stiction issues.
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Old 05-25-2011, 06:40 PM
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if you want some serious new found power buy a sct x3 with custom tunes. and im pretty sure bullydog leaves a footprint and the truck needs to be re flashed at ford
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Old 05-25-2011, 06:40 PM
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I have heard that you need to reflash any time you use the bullydog but not to sure if this is true or not.
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I am just wondering where this power came from "all of a sudden". As is, I dont need to reflash anything.
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Old 05-25-2011, 07:26 PM
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We will have to let someone else chime in. Ive never delt with bullydog or edge.


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Old 05-25-2011, 08:25 PM
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I have been running the hot shot secret in my truck. My local IH dealer told me it would do wonders for my truck, better MPG, fast starts, more power, etc. My truck only had 60k miles on it when I first put it in. I did notice a little improvment but not alot. I have since spoke to several people who have tried it and they got great results. Also Rev X does the same thing and it is only an 8 oz bottle. My guess is that the HSS helped out alot!! I am new to diesels but that is my theory.
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Congrats on a "new" truck. The fact that you are driving the truck and making demands on the the turbo may account for the improvement in performance if the truck had not been similarly "exercised" previously. If you have not disposed of all of the old oil you should have it analyzed and then continue to have the oil analyzed at each fluid service interval. This will help you make a more informed assessment of future performance fluctuation. I too use HSS and think it is a great product. It has a high molybdenum content that is good to reduce engine wear and improve injector performance.

Here are three places I have used for the oil analysis:
Blackstone Labs
Predictive Maintenance Services, Inc.
Oil Analyzers, Inc. - Oil Analysis, Oil Testing Services

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I think I'll toss in a bottle of HSS to see if it helps my injector issue... anybody tried the blue diamond oil ??
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Old 05-26-2011, 08:06 AM
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The bulldog is stuck in your truck, it will not be able to go back to stock unless you pay ford to reflash the pcm I had this happen to my truck an took me a long time to figure out what was wrong. Good luck
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I used Blue Diamond one time. It is a great oil for LONG TERM use - that is to say if you intend to do extended oil use (which isn't a really great idea for the 6.0L in general). My UOA with the Blue Diamond showed FANTASTIC additive and neutralization capacity. It had the highest shear stability of any of the oils I've run: Motorcraft 15W40, Rotella T 5W40 (full syn), Rotella T6 5W40 (full syn), and Blue Diamond. I run the T6 now. The Blue Diamond had incredible oxidation numbers too. Even with that, it is an expensive oil. I have a bypass oil filter too but I am uncomfortable subjecting the engine to extended oil change intervals even with the results from my UOAs. An oil change is cheap compared to the effects of oil out-of-tolerance. From the figures I have on my UOAs I would guess that a 7,500-mile or perhaps even 10,000-mile is a possibility but that just puts it at a comparable cost to the T6. I think Blue Diamond is $40 a gallon while the T6 is $20 a gallon. The bottom line would indicate that you've changed the oil 2x versus 1x and spent the same on the fluids but I am more comfortable with a 5k-mile run than trying to justify the "savings" in my work-time performing the fluid/filter exchange. You'd still need to perform periodic oil sampling too although that is what I do at each fluid change anyway...the idea with Blue Diamond is that you don't change unless the UOA indicates you've dropped to the threshold of suitable oil characteristics (TBN, Visc cSt @100c, wear metals, contaminants, etc.). Keep in mind that I have a truck that is run off-road A LOT, it weighs 16k-lbs ALL THE TIME, and it is my daily-driver so my viewpoint is narrow and specific. Your needs may not be as tight in tolerance as mine. Blue Diamond is a great oil though.

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