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Old 05-13-2011, 12:13 PM
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Upgraded banjo bolts?

Is upgrading the banjo bolts on the fuel rail good or not? Does it do anything for the truck? Has anyone done it what do you think?
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:24 PM
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Yes its good for the truck, I did it to mine.........keeps the fuel pressure from dipping under WOT so you don't ruin the injectors. You're not going to feel any performance gains but its nice piece of mind and easy. While your at it, you should do the blue spring kit too
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:27 PM
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Yeah I did it along with the updated fuel pressure regulator kit.

I have 2 extra bolts brand new in ford packaging if you want to buy them. I'm getting ready to post them up. All you would need is the washers which are under 5 bux. U need 4 of them. I have the part number of them to if you want it
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:30 PM
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I was unaware of the blue spring Kit. What is it and where can I get it from.

What are you looking to get out of those bolts?
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You will not notice a bit of difference changing them out.
The stock banjos have what some say is a restrictive check valve. Its purpose is not really known. I did read once that they check valves were not actually a check valve per se, but they are there to stop a reversion wave that can occur in certain situations. What the reversion wave would do is actually lower the fuel pressure at the injector tops.
The way it was explained to me so that I could wrap my little pea brain about what that meant was this.
Lay on an old "full motion" waterbed. Kick your feet in tempo. If you get the right rhythm you will notice that the waves actually seem to build upon themselves without putting any more energy into your kicking. The same type of thing could occur in a certain situation in the fuel rail with the rhythm of the injector pulse.
Now, put a board under you on that waterbed and try it using that same rhythm as before. You can't get the same wave action going. That is the purpose of the valves, to change the wavelength of the fuel system.

This is pure speculation on my part as I have not heard this from anyone beyond that one person. For what its worth, I have the 6.4 banjos installed, but I also put the updated "blue" fuel pressure regulator spring in at the same time. My hope is, that if this speculation is correct, the additional fuel pressure I got by installing the updated fuel regulator spring would either prevent the wave or diminish its occurrence.
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:35 PM
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Here the link to the thread with everything you need including part numbers......

6.4 vs 6.0 banjo bolt pics
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:42 PM
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Theres links in my last post that will take you right to the parts on Tousley Fords website...
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Old 05-13-2011, 05:14 PM
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You will not notice a bit of difference changing them out.
The stock banjos have what some say is a restrictive check valve. Its purpose is not really known. I did read once that they check valves were not actually a check valve per se, but they are there to stop a reversion wave that can occur in certain situations. What the reversion wave would do is actually lower the fuel pressure at the injector tops.
The way it was explained to me so that I could wrap my little pea brain about what that meant was this.
Lay on an old "full motion" waterbed. Kick your feet in tempo. If you get the right rhythm you will notice that the waves actually seem to build upon themselves without putting any more energy into your kicking. The same type of thing could occur in a certain situation in the fuel rail with the rhythm of the injector pulse.
Now, put a board under you on that waterbed and try it using that same rhythm as before. You can't get the same wave action going. That is the purpose of the valves, to change the wavelength of the fuel system.

This is pure speculation on my part as I have not heard this from anyone beyond that one person. For what its worth, I have the 6.4 banjos installed, but I also put the updated "blue" fuel pressure regulator spring in at the same time. My hope is, that if this speculation is correct, the additional fuel pressure I got by installing the updated fuel regulator spring would either prevent the wave or diminish its occurrence.
Cool something I hadn't heard about this. I haven't done this only because I want to better understand it. This makes sense somewhat. Thanks for more info.
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Old 05-14-2011, 08:18 AM
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I just used a drill bit and made my upgrade


Upgraded banjo bolts?-banjo.jpg

Upgraded banjo bolts?-banjos.jpg
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:30 AM
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the updated fuel pressure regulator kit is undoubtedly the best stock upgrade you could do to your truck. high fuel pressure acts as a cushion for the intensifier piston and keeps it from overtraveling

you won't find 6.4 banjo bolts anywhere near my 6.0. no one has been able to show me any actual evidence the stock bolts could become restrictive at wide open throttle. you have to figure international put those there for a reason
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