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Old 04-21-2011, 12:43 PM
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Question Looking to get an Excursion... couple concerns.

Hello Everyone,
First off im a first time poster but ive been lurking on these forums for a few days gathering intell and just being nosy.

Im looking at getting a 05 Excursion with the 6.0l Diesel but I gotta admit the horror stories of the head bolts /Coolant issues on these things has me concerned. Im wanting it to tow around my boat and dual axel car trailer.. but 95% of the time im gonna be just hauling kids and groceries... But for the other 5% I want something I can depend on. I know I want a Diesel SUV and everything in my driveway right now is a Dodge but they just dont have anything to offer in that field except a Liberty that I cant tow anything with so ive narrowed in on the Excursion since my lifted 01 Dodge Gasser is barely getting 6mpg and I need something bigger now since ive expanded my family since buying the dodge.
There is a few Excursions local to me but the one im really liking is an 05 6.0l its got 120k Miles and its loaded, but stock... No Programmer, lift etc.. I plan on putting some type of programmer on it to boost the MPG so im wondering if there is anything I should do before that, is it really worth the trouble of replacing the head bolts or is there just a bunch of hype going around giving these motors a bad name.. Or is there an actual issue with them and its best for me just to keep looking untill I find a 7.3l that I like?
I also know there is a coolant issue with the Gold stuff from Ford so I plan on flushing the entire system to get rid of it regardless of which motor I get but whats the best replacement fluid to use?

Any other information on this subject is more then welcome.

Thanks!
-WT
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:53 PM
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I was in the exact same situation. Just bight mine a month ago that sounds just like the one you want. So far I love it. I have a lot of plans to upgrade (still getting a feel of what everyone prefers). The only thing I can suggest is to look it over real good and get the price down for things like, suspension feeling like it might need work, brakes worn these trucks are heavy, and improper maintenance. I bought mine from a ford dealership and they said it was just serviced by them. I redid all the service and found they hadnt replaced the fuel filter underneath, just the top, they didnt do a coolant flush which was due by the records, and they didnt even use proper oil filter.
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Howdy and welcome to the ORG.

When you are in the market for a 6.0L, you need to get all the information you can get. Start running through the threads in the 6.0L, the coolant and motor issues are well documented, and the aftermarket has responded.

Get the Oasis Report, to find out what has been done at a Ford garage to the Ex and what issues keep popping up. Then get the Carfax, or other report to see if its been in any wrecks.

The 6.0L needs regular maintenance, and be regularly worked. Know what you're getting into, and you'll be fine. I'm very pleased with my 6.0L, wouldn't trade it for another truck on the road.
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just bought mine with 192,000 miles on the odo. the person who had it previously followed the manufacturer recommended service to a t. this thing is like brand new. very lucky find, had the service records from day one and i there had never been a head gasket or egr cooler replacement.
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Hello Everyone,
First off im a first time poster but ive been lurking on these forums for a few days gathering intell and just being nosy.

Im looking at getting a 05 Excursion with the 6.0l Diesel but I gotta admit the horror stories of the head bolts /Coolant issues on these things has me concerned. Im wanting it to tow around my boat and dual axel car trailer.. but 95% of the time im gonna be just hauling kids and groceries... But for the other 5% I want something I can depend on. I know I want a Diesel SUV and everything in my driveway right now is a Dodge but they just dont have anything to offer in that field except a Liberty that I cant tow anything with so ive narrowed in on the Excursion since my lifted 01 Dodge Gasser is barely getting 6mpg and I need something bigger now since ive expanded my family since buying the dodge.
There is a few Excursions local to me but the one im really liking is an 05 6.0l its got 120k Miles and its loaded, but stock... No Programmer, lift etc.. I plan on putting some type of programmer on it to boost the MPG so im wondering if there is anything I should do before that, is it really worth the trouble of replacing the head bolts or is there just a bunch of hype going around giving these motors a bad name.. Or is there an actual issue with them and its best for me just to keep looking untill I find a 7.3l that I like?
I also know there is a coolant issue with the Gold stuff from Ford so I plan on flushing the entire system to get rid of it regardless of which motor I get but whats the best replacement fluid to use?

Any other information on this subject is more then welcome.

Thanks!
-WT
Sounds like you are looking for what I have.. .I just bought my 05 EX a couple months ago and I didnt realize the amounts of maintenance either, but I do love my EX.. Its the Eddie Bauer and had 119,000 on it when I got it from original owner. From my experience, I would see if you could find someone near you with a tuner or monitor like the Edge Insight or Evolution that you can plug into the OBD port inside the cab and monitor the temps. Get it up to speed and get the Tuner to display the ECT and EOT and make sure they dont exceed 15 degrees...Run it for 30-45 minutes on hiway at 65-70 mph. IF the temps are good, then I would proceed to checking balljoints...THose are a pain to replace.. trust me, I did mine... If you can get good temps and the balljoints are good, then I would proceed with the purchase.. Just my 2 cents.. Someone else on here will have input as well..
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Sounds like you are looking for what I have.. .I just bought my 05 EX a couple months ago and I didnt realize the amounts of maintenance either, but I do love my EX.. Its the Eddie Bauer and had 119,000 on it when I got it from original owner. From my experience, I would see if you could find someone near you with a tuner or monitor like the Edge Insight or Evolution that you can plug into the OBD port inside the cab and monitor the temps. Get it up to speed and get the Tuner to display the ECT and EOT and make sure they dont exceed 15 degrees...Run it for 30-45 minutes on hiway at 65-70 mph. IF the temps are good, then I would proceed to checking balljoints...THose are a pain to replace.. trust me, I did mine... If you can get good temps and the balljoints are good, then I would proceed with the purchase.. Just my 2 cents.. Someone else on here will have input as well..
FYI... all this I learned from PGreenSVT
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First thing I did when I was Ex shopping was getting an Oasis report on each of the units I was interested in buying.

If you can find one in good shape with a good Oasis and ARP's that would be the winner in my mind.

If you are 100% gonna get an Excursion buy an Edge Insight and take it on the test drives. I did and found some codes on the one I bought. The seller must have been told that it was bad injectors because he came down a couple grand pretty quick! It ended up being a bad ficm throwing injector codes. The original reason I brought the Insight was to look for a bad oil cooler.
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Thanks for the information Everyone, Espically PGreen.. Great writeup!
Ill definatly be picking up an Edge and getting the Oasis report, that 6.0 I had my eye on has since been sold Soo the search continues!
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