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Warranty issues with coolant change???

I recently purchased my first diesel...'07 F350 52k miles. Love it. I am on board with flushing the Ford Gold and filling with ELC... but am I going to have warranty issues with Ford if something goes wrong with my EGR or Oil Cooler in the next year and a half. I am debating just having Ford flush with vc-9 and refilling with Ford Gold for the next year and a half, and then changing to ELC at that point... Any thoughts??
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Great question, I'm in the exact same boat. 2007 with 53k.
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They cannot void the warranty as long as the anti-freeze meets or exceeds fords specs their is nothing they can do warranty wise.

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But Cat1 ELC coolant is not the same as Ford gold... so it doesn't meet Ford specs. Right?? And most of us on here seem to believe it "exceeds" Ford specs, but does Ford believe it exceeds their specs?? A Ford tech near me says that Ford Gold is great stuff, and he has never seen it cause problems... and he is a respected guy who is Ford certified but owns his own independent diesel shop for close to 10 years now.
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But Cat1 ELC coolant is not the same as Ford gold... so it doesn't meet Ford specs. Right?? And most of us on here seem to believe it "exceeds" Ford specs, but does Ford believe it exceeds their specs?? A Ford tech near me says that Ford Gold is great stuff, and he has never seen it cause problems... and he is a respected guy who is Ford certified but owns his own independent diesel shop for close to 10 years now.
In the owners manual it says " Add Motorcraft Premium Gold Engine Coolant(yellow color) VC-7A(U.S, except CA, Or and NM), VC-7-B(CA, OR and NM), meeting Ford Specification WSS-M97B51-A1. So if your yellow coolant you can use it if it meets those specs, but it also says Do not add/mix ELC but it doesn't say "Do not use". Also under the hood I have sticker saying modifications that replace or affect ford part wont be covered. Example you put in a radio and the speedo doesn't work anymore they can not say they wont cover the speedo because there is a aftermarket radio. It is illegal. And if you search the website here you will find lots of pictures of what the gold crap does to these trucks. My ford dealership also tells me that the gold isn't the problem, international doesn't build the powerstroke. Take what some people say with a grain of salt. When I have the money I will make the switch.

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well look at it like this if you change it then it goes bad and ford says no to the warranty claim then you have to pay for it, then pay for a lawyer to fight a billion dollar company whos probably fought this battle before. just do what i do change the coolant every 20k

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Flooringit- agree 100%. I am sure the Gold cause’s issues as I had a couple Ford guys tell me it did and has. I was also told during the same conversation that the trucks they had seen with the problems were ones that had not been taken care of.

I am sure there are ones that had issues and had been well taken care of as I am sure somebody will speak up and say it happened to them and their truck was maintained to the letter. Not saying it hasn't happened.

So I asked what they do to their trucks- neither is currently stud'd and one has a mild tune (under 100 hp). Both run gauges, watch their temps. Both flush their coolant at 20,000 intervals and both are still running Gold. My truck is at 50,000 now and it was flushed at 20k and 40k. Not sure if I'll ever change but if not I'll continue to flush every 20k.
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Thanks guys. I like the suggestion of flushing every 20k. I will probably do that until the warranty runs out and then change to ELC.
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Floorinit, just what is there to go bad? You mean like it expires with age? Pay attention to the service intervals of top rated ELCs. There is nothing to fall out of supspension like the SILICATES of the Ford gold coolant which is proven to plug the oil cooler passages either. Also ELC will not damage or detoriate ANY surfaces within the engine.

Do what you want like blow your money twice a year introducing un-neccesary amounts of used coolant to be handled and disposed of properly into the system. I'll run my ELC for the rest of the trucks life.

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