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Front Diff & Steering Stabilizer ????

So I just got my new dual front steering stabilizer in from Top Gun Customz and am getting ready to install it tomorrow. I figure that since I have to take out two of the bolts on the front differential cover why not take out all of them and replace the fluid while I am down the. Since this is my first F250 I had a couple questions......

Do I have to pull the whole cover off to swap out the fluid? (My old jeep had a drain and fill plug and I don's see one on this.)

I called looking for a gasket and the parts store told me they didn't have one listed, does this mean I don't need one? Do I just use a sealant of some kind? If it doesn't use a gasket do I need to make sure I get all of the old sealant off before putting the new sealant and cover back on?

Going to swap out the fluid and put in Amsoil 75-90 full syn., any issues with this? Is 5 qts the correct amount of oil to buy?

Also, is there an issue with using blue lock tight on the bolts on the mounting hardware of the steering stabilizer?

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There's a fill plug but not a drain. Take off the cover, scrape off the old sealant, Put on some RTV put the cover back on and fill with oil. The other question will have to be answered by someone else. Do you have a lift and bigger tires?

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Thanks for the info Mud.

I have a leveling kit with 35/12.50/20 toyo m/t on it right now. Going to switch to the Nitto Terra Grapplers 295/60/20 in the next month or so.
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No drain
No gasket needed, just use black RTV. There are plenty of sources online on the best method to do this.
That fluid is fine and 5 quarts is more than enough

blue lock tight is fine. Dont use red for that application.

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Did you already by the stabilizer kit? I have one on my truck and im not lifted. There is are 2 kinds to get.

I have the 2.5 inch level in the front and i had to go with the NOT LIFTED stabilizer kit.

If you by the Lifted Kit it wont fit.

Also one thing you will notice is if your getting it for front wheel wobble you will still have a little slack in the front end but very little compared to now. Another thing is the stabilizer kit will make the steering a lot stiffer. I actualy have to steer the truck back straight around corners where before i just let up on the wheel and it auto centered.

This also adds a bit of stress to the steering pump since it has to work a bit harder now steering.

Just a few things i noticed with mine. Im running a duel shock Ranchero setup.

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Another thing is the stabilizer kit will make the steering a lot stiffer. I actualy have to steer the truck back straight around corners where before i just let up on the wheel and it auto centered.

This also adds a bit of stress to the steering pump since it has to work a bit harder now steering.

This isnt true if your steering system is properly working. As a previous mechanic I have installed hundreds of these and have never experienced what you are saying. You should really look in to what is REALLY causing your steering problem. Could be a rag joint, or a problem in your steering box. I would take the steering stabalizer off and drive without it and see what problems you can discover, or take it in to th shop.

When you install a dual steering stabalizer kit you shouldnt ever tell it is there until you hit a pot hole or when your off road. In normal every day driving conditions it isnt doing anything....again provided you arent using it as a band aid for unbalanced tires, bad ball joints, or other.....

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Here are a couple of links to my front diff and dual stabilizer jobs...and a guide by Guzzlemans

Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - MoyockPowerstroke's Album: Dual Steering Stabilizer
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - MoyockPowerstroke's Album: Front Dana Differential tune-up
http://www.guzzle.rbmicro.com/fdiff.html

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This isnt true if your steering system is properly working. As a previous mechanic I have installed hundreds of these and have never experienced what you are saying. You should really look in to what is REALLY causing your steering problem. Could be a rag joint, or a problem in your steering box. I would take the steering stabalizer off and drive without it and see what problems you can discover, or take it in to th shop.

When you install a dual steering stabalizer kit you shouldnt ever tell it is there until you hit a pot hole or when your off road. In normal every day driving conditions it isnt doing anything....again provided you arent using it as a band aid for unbalanced tires, bad ball joints, or other.....
Maybe im describing it wrong then. I original bought the truck and it didn't have one on there. So i went to Ford because the truck has some slop in the steering. Basically you could move the steering wheel left and right a couple inches and nothing happened. My F150 was super responsive so i was concerned.

Ford looked and said it was the tires i have 325/50/20. They took those off and installed factory tires and the issue went away. So they said i needed a stabilizer system.

They paid for it and put it in free since i just bought the truck.

Everything is golden now.

Even with a stabilizer you should feel resistance when steering the truck no? I mean those are Shocks basically they are there to absorb hits the tires take so you steering wheel isn't jerked out of your hand. So that being the case when you steer the truck its going to have more resistance. Now when i say you have to steer it back i don't mean you let the wheel go and the truck turns its self. It does auto center but its a bit slower to do it. I choose some bad wording.

Moyock that's exactly what mine looks like but my shocks are silver and i have boots over the shafts.

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Thanks!!! This is exactly what I was looking for.....it also has me waiting til next week to do this because I want to repaint the diff cover and figure I will do both of them at the same time.
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Maybe im describing it wrong then. I original bought the truck and it didn't have one on there. So i went to Ford because the truck has some slop in the steering. Basically you could move the steering wheel left and right a couple inches and nothing happened. My F150 was super responsive so i was concerned.

Ford looked and said it was the tires i have 325/50/20. They took those off and installed factory tires and the issue went away. So they said i needed a stabilizer system.

They paid for it and put it in free since i just bought the truck.

Everything is golden now.

Even with a stabilizer you should feel resistance when steering the truck no? I mean those are Shocks basically they are there to absorb hits the tires take so you steering wheel isn't jerked out of your hand. So that being the case when you steer the truck its going to have more resistance. Now when i say you have to steer it back i don't mean you let the wheel go and the truck turns its self. It does auto center but its a bit slower to do it. I choose some bad wording.

Moyock that's exactly what mine looks like but my shocks are silver and i have boots over the shafts.
Hmm, well I had a similar problem. Had a good amount of slop in my steering and I was running my dual steering stabilizer kit. Come to find out and I changed about everything it was my steering box. I wouldn't over look that if I were you...

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