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alright lets settle it.

before i start, this is a general diesel thread. with that bein the case i searched and searched for a place for it and couldnt find the proper place. so i figured i would put it here cause i own a 6.0?lol so mods feel free to move it.

moving on.

alright guys. im sellin my 6.0 because im tireed of it and want a more reliable diesel. now that doesnt mean im anti ford. i REALLY want a manual 7.3. but thats not the purpose of this thread. what im asking for is information from everbody about each diesel's problem. kind of like a pro and con to help decide which diesel would be the next choice for me and to help everyone understand the complications of each truck whether it be cummins, p stroke, or duramax. so ill start out with what i know

Cummins 5.9l -2nd gen- Cons
- Killer Dowel Pin
- Lift pumps are succeptable to faulting
- "53" blocks crack
- Death wobble due to easily worn out front ends.

Duramax 6.6l 2001-2004- Cons
- Injector Harness faulting
- Glowplug reflash
( apparently they have extended warranty options to cover injectors )
- IDFS axles break.

Powerstroke 7.3l (turbo not idi) Cons
havent come across any? lol

Cummins 5.9l -6BT- Pro's
- Really easy to work on.
- Parts are READILY availible.

Duramax Pros
- Look's pretty?

Powertstroke 7.3l pros
- you tell me.

yall fill in the rest on whatcha know.
THIS EXCLUDES 6.0L, 6.4L, AND 6.7L PSTROKES. AND 6.7 CUMMINS AND NEWER DURAMAXES. cause i dont want one.


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That is unless Chuck Norris finds you first, then round-house kicks you to the face for not going to google and typing "stacking 6.0 powerstroke".
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It has nothing to do with "power gains".. Your truck will literally just suck.. Literally suck..
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Cummins 5.9l -2nd gen- Cons
- Killer Dowel Pin
- Lift pumps are succeptable to faulting
- "53" blocks crack
- Death wobble due to easily worn out front ends.
- Auto Trans is not good

Duramax 6.6l 2001-2004- Cons
- Injector Harness faulting
- Glowplug reflash
( apparently they have extended warranty options to cover injectors )
- IDFS axles break.
IFS-----just sucks

Powerstroke 7.3l (turbo not idi) Cons
havent come across any? lol
4R100 needs to be beefed up to be amazing
Depends on how much power you want, these are not HP kings. and are gettin hard to find one with low miles

Cummins 5.9l -6BT- Pro's
- Really easy to work on.
- Parts are READILY availible.

Duramax Pros
- Look's pretty?
- Add twins and you have a HP/Pullin monster
- Nice smooth ride

Powertstroke 7.3l pros
- you tell me.
-Will run for ever
- Dont care about what filters/oil they will run on what ever
- Every one knows it's issues and has fixes
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very nice and appreciated i forgot to mention that bout the cummins auto 4 speed but have heard the nv manuals are great


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before i start, this is a general diesel thread. with that bein the case i searched and searched for a place for it and couldnt find the proper place. so i figured i would put it here cause i own a 6.0?lol so mods feel free to move it.

moving on.

alright guys. im sellin my 6.0 because im tireed of it and want a more reliable diesel. now that doesnt mean im anti ford. i REALLY want a manual 7.3. but thats not the purpose of this thread. what im asking for is information from everbody about each diesel's problem. kind of like a pro and con to help decide which diesel would be the next choice for me and to help everyone understand the complications of each truck whether it be cummins, p stroke, or duramax. so ill start out with what i know

Cummins 5.9l -2nd gen- Cons
- Killer Dowel Pin
- Lift pumps are succeptable to faulting
- "53" blocks crack
- Death wobble due to easily worn out front ends.
What dannan said
Duramax 6.6l 2001-2004- Cons

- Injector Harness faulting
- Glowplug reflash
( apparently they have extended warranty options to cover injectors )
- IDFS axles break.
Injectors failing consistantly

Powerstroke 7.3l (turbo not idi) Cons
havent come across any? lol

CPS, Lack of power, Crap trans without a build, Crap waterpump

Cummins 5.9l -6BT- Pro's
- Really easy to work on.
- Parts are READILY availible.

Duramax Pros
- Look's pretty?

Powertstroke 7.3l pros
- you tell me.

yall fill in the rest on whatcha know.
THIS EXCLUDES 6.0L, 6.4L, AND 6.7L PSTROKES. AND 6.7 CUMMINS AND NEWER DURAMAXES. cause i dont want one.
Why not just stud and delete your 6.0 and have a bulletproof truck?

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very nice and appreciated i forgot to mention that bout the cummins auto 4 speed but have heard the nv manuals are great
With the manuals you'll need a clutch right away if you add any power then there something about a nut on the fifth gear on them trans that falls off or something like that.
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The Injector issues on the LB7 duramax should be covered. I believe they are replacing them even if the truck is out of warranty. I did an internship at the Bosch plant in Charleston, SC which is where duramax and cummins injectors are made. We had a total reman line for LB7 injectors. If I remember correctly there was a sleeve inside of the injector that was faulty and kept cracking.

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Add PMR's to the cons of the 7.3.
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The Injector issues on the LB7 duramax should be covered. I believe they are replacing them even if the truck is out of warranty. I did an internship at the Bosch plant in Charleston, SC which is where duramax and cummins injectors are made. We had a total reman line for LB7 injectors. If I remember correctly there was a sleeve inside of the injector that was faulty and kept cracking.
Injectors are only covered to 100k

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Injectors are only covered to 100k

I thought they changed that to 200k but i could be wrong.
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