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Headgaskets of EGR cooler?

Hi guys and gals,

From previous threads, some of you know my truck is burning mad coolant. I was hoping y'all could diagnose it as egr cooler or headgaskets.

Symptoms;
Burning a lot of coolant, at all times. Sometimes it will clear itself out and there will not be any more visable smoke.

Rare hardstarts; by rare I mean its happened twice in the month it's been happening.

Upper radiator hose is hard as a rock after driving it.

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There is no powerloss and it runs very smooth. Also, economy hasn't dropped at all, has risen actually.

From looking on here, I belive it's the EGR cooler based on symptoms, but I've been told it seems like I have blown headgaskets.

I have gotten some price quotes for repair...
$1000 plus fluids for EGR cooler repair.
$3000-$4000 for headgasket repair/egr delete/studs/oil cooler rebuild.

I just bought the truck and the dealer I bought it from will not stand behind it at all. So this will be all out of pocket.

My question is, should I pour all of this money into this truck or go get a new one.... with a warrenty....

Either way I will be pissed for having spent X amount of money so I can have a vehicle to drive...

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how long has it been (in miles and days) since you bought it? how long was the limited warranty?
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They gave no warrenty. It has been smoking since two weeks after I bought it on and off, but now it is more or less constant. Probably about 500 miles. I has gotten worse as time has gone on....
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I would stop driving it, before you pop your HG's. You can pull the EGR valve out, and look in the hole in the intake for coolant or moisture. If there's moisture, there's a good chance that is just an EGR cooler, but if you've been driving it around, you may have HG issue as well. Is there any coolant coming out of the degas bottle cap? That's a good sign that the HG's have popped

I was told (about to do the EGR delete on a buddies 04) that after you installe the delete and just hook up the rest of the coolant lines, you can pressure check the system for leaks. I woul pressurize the system, and leave it for a while (few hours or overnight) and check to see what the pressure does. If it went down and all the connections were tight, you've probably got a popped HG....

If you do the EGR delete or replacement, be sure to rebuild that oil cooler too. Its been diagnosed by most as the leading factor to EGR cooler failures, as it plugs first and then overpressurizes the EGR cooler with superheated steam, causing it to leak


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I haven't been driving it. I was able to get a loaner. I have no puking. The truck is not at my house either. It did get really hot once, but it hasn't made the problem any worse..
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Oh yeah, and install a coolant filter when you're done


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* KMC XD Monsters wrapped in Hankook ATM's
* 08 style mirrors
* 4" TB exhaust
* SCT X2 with Gearhead, PHP and ID tunes
* Edge Insight CTS
*Full Bulletproof Diesel kit with remote oil cooler
* Blue FPR spring
* 6.4 Banjos
* Repaired FICM by BPD
* Dfuser coolant filter
* Stage1 MTW turbo



New truck has a Cummins and a handshaker

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I haven't been driving it. I was able to get a loaner. I have no puking. The truck is not at my house either. It did get really hot once, but it hasn't made the problem any worse..
If it got hot enough, it may have warped the head(s)


2006 F350 SOLD
* KMC XD Monsters wrapped in Hankook ATM's
* 08 style mirrors
* 4" TB exhaust
* SCT X2 with Gearhead, PHP and ID tunes
* Edge Insight CTS
*Full Bulletproof Diesel kit with remote oil cooler
* Blue FPR spring
* 6.4 Banjos
* Repaired FICM by BPD
* Dfuser coolant filter
* Stage1 MTW turbo



New truck has a Cummins and a handshaker

Is it 2016 yet?
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FML. I think it would be better just to drop this damn thing. It will be opening up a can of worms...
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FML. I think it would be better just to drop this damn thing. It will be opening up a can of worms...
Doubtful that you can sell it for what you owe on it if it has issues.... You may be better off fixing it and driving it for a while then trying to sell, just a thought


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* KMC XD Monsters wrapped in Hankook ATM's
* 08 style mirrors
* 4" TB exhaust
* SCT X2 with Gearhead, PHP and ID tunes
* Edge Insight CTS
*Full Bulletproof Diesel kit with remote oil cooler
* Blue FPR spring
* 6.4 Banjos
* Repaired FICM by BPD
* Dfuser coolant filter
* Stage1 MTW turbo



New truck has a Cummins and a handshaker

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I've already spoken with dealers, I will be taking a hit, but I'm just having trouble justifying to myself to dump this much cash into something, without know exactly whats wrong and the extent.
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