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F650 6.0 powerstoke vs. pickup motor

would like to know what the difference is? my f650 siezed up and i have a opprotunity to get a 6.0 out of a pickup very reasonble thanks
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would like to know what the difference is? my f650 siezed up and i have a opprotunity to get a 6.0 out of a pickup very reasonble thanks
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so you are saying the motor mounts the intake and fan, belts and everything will just adapt from the orignal
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ummmm, im pretty sure they are not the same, from what i understood the pickup motor has fords computers, while the 650 and 750 are different. From what i was told, you can hook up the ford ids to pickup motors, but when you go to hook it up to 650 and 750 it wont read. Thats why international will work on 650 and 750s but not 250,350,450, or 550s. But i may be mistaken




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ummmm, im pretty sure they are not the same, from what i understood the pickup motor has fords computers, while the 650 and 750 are different. From what i was told, you can hook up the ford ids to pickup motors, but when you go to hook it up to 650 and 750 it wont read. Thats why international will work on 650 and 750s but not 250,350,450, or 550s. But i may be mistaken
You sir, are CORRECT. There are also MANY differences in the external "hard parts" as well. To start, the rear cover would need to be swapped over, due to the different bellhousing bolt patterns, which by itself is a bit of work. The oil pans are obviously different, since F-650s take about 18 or 19 litres every oil change if I'm not mistaken, versus the 15 litres for the F-250 to F-550 applications. Those are the obvious differences that I'm aware of. You would probably be much better off searching for a donor engine from a Navistar truck that had the VT-365 engine (same as your F-650).

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You sir, are CORRECT. There are also MANY differences in the external "hard parts" as well. To start, the rear cover would need to be swapped over, due to the different bellhousing bolt patterns, which by itself is a bit of work. The oil pans are obviously different, since F-650s take about 18 or 19 litres every oil change if I'm not mistaken, versus the 15 litres for the F-250 to F-550 applications. Those are the obvious differences that I'm aware of. You would probably be much better off searching for a donor engine from a Navistar truck that had the VT-365 engine (same as your F-650).
I forgot about the rear cover but IIRC the oil pan is the same

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so I probly won't b able 2 use that engine u r saying ? Any 1 know were I can get a motor
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so I probly won't b able 2 use that engine u r saying ? Any 1 know were I can get a motor
I'm not saying that at all. What I AM saying is, if you choose to purchase a used engine that originated from an F-250 to F-550 truck, you WILL be swapping A LOT of external parts on it to make it work. Like I mentioned, you would be better off searching for a used engine from either another F-650/F-750 truck or a Navistar truck that had the VT-365 engine (if you don't mind the blue paint).

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They are saying the long block is the same. But just about everything else is going to be different. How different? They don't know. Will it work yes. Will it be a lot of work yes. Would it be easier to get a international 6.0? Yes.

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They are saying the long block is the same. But just about everything else is going to be different. How different? They don't know. Will it work yes. Will it be a lot of work yes. Would it be easier to get a international 6.0? Yes.
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