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Racor Filters, Are they an EXACT match?

I know enough about manufacturing to know that just because Racor makes the filters for the Motorcraft brand it doesn't mean that their own product label is exactly the same as the one they make for Ford or Motorcraft. Copyrights prevent companies from making the same product under another label or even their own. So, is racor's direct replacement filter EXACTLY the same as Motorcraft's? Does anybody know for certain? I don't want save a few dollars on racor's filters only to cost me thousands down the road.
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They are an exact match.
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Don't want to sound disrespectful or offend you bismic but, how do you know them to be the same. I've heard about other brands claiming to be a direct OEM replacement only to find later that they are not. Just want to be 100 % sure on my end. Thanks!
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What would you accept for proof?

Seems to me that maybe you should just spend the extra $1.25 for the Motorcraft FL2016 at Walmart if you are that wary. Or go buy them both and put them on your kitchen table and compare even at that there could be different filter media or materials used that only lab testing would tell you for sure. Unless you actually bore witness to them coming off of the production line and observed them being placed into different boxes you just never know for sure....

Sorry just not sure what would answer your question.
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The fit is an EXACT match. The filter media between the racor branded and motorcraft branded units has some very minor differences though.

This was told to directly from a Racor rep
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Proof? I don't know how one would provide proof. What convinced you that they are the same? Just want to make sure I'm not being penny wise and pound foolish. Just a side note, I quit buying from Wal-mart after one of my Wal-mart bought OEM filters had come apart in the filter housing during service. I was told by a parts supplier that there is some suspicion that some of the Wal-mart sold OEM's may be repackaged knock offs. I guess anything is possible. Just want to get as much convincing input as possible .
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I guess the fact Ford doesn't seem to like anyone buying anything but their filters makes me very cautious. I've been reading recently that International dealers are supposed to sell filters to Ford Powerstroke owners under a different part number than the International part # because of a contractual agreement between Ford and International. I'm assuming the Ford part number has a higher price tag. If that's the case then I wonder why Ford would allow Racor to sell the filters at a much less expensive price. That's how I've arrived at my level of caution. Just makes me want to ask a lot of questions!!
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Proof? I don't know how one would provide proof. What convinced you that they are the same? Just want to make sure I'm not being penny wise and pound foolish. Just a side note, I quit buying from Wal-mart after one of my Wal-mart bought OEM filters had come apart in the filter housing during service. I was told by a parts supplier that there is some suspicion that some of the Wal-mart sold OEM's may be repackaged knock offs. I guess anything is possible. Just want to get as much convincing input as possible .
Wouldn't Motorcraft flip their lid if the part in the box was not genuine Motorcraft? How many miles were on the filter?
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If your talking about the filter that came apart it was only about 5000 miles. I always look at the filters before putting them in to make sure they look like they have the OEM markings, but how do you know if it's a really good knock off. Who knows? All I know is that these engines don't seem to like any conditions outside of perfect, and a self destructing oil filter doesn't seem to fit in the perfect category. Kinda makes a good case for a by-pass filter doesn't it. So the media on the Racor is different, does it filter the oil down to same micron rating?
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Don't want to sound disrespectful or offend you bismic but, how do you know them to be the same. I've heard about other brands claiming to be a direct OEM replacement only to find later that they are not. Just want to be 100 % sure on my end. Thanks!
Do what I did - Buy one of each and put them next to each other.
Patent numbers - same
Dimensional measurements - Identical
Construction (parts and assembly) - same

Here is a start w/ the oil filter:
Make sure Oil filters are OEM style. Check:
1. One piece top (NO plastic cap adaptor)
2.Top is glued to the filter media
3. Patent numbers (below)
4. Felt gasket on bottom
5. Diameter - exactly 1.5"
6. Length - exactly 6.5" (excluding the 4 snap tabs on top)
7. Filters are stiff and resist any twisting motion
8. 52 or 53 pleats
9. Pleats are 11/16" wide and 6 3/8" tall

U.S. Patent 6.554.139 describes the filter components (the good stuff, made by the Parker-Hannifin Corporation).
U.S. Patent 6.086.763 refers to the front disk assembly (not quite as important - made by Ing. Walter Hengst GmbH & Co.).

Fuel filter patent info:
U.S. Patent 6.495.042 describes the HFCM filter component
The element in the engine compartment has: PA6-GF33 w/ number 58230-10-FF printed on it; w/ 1076 below it.
Racor made fuel filters have a white "Aqua-Bloc" media on the large HFCM filter (will-fit filters do not due to patent infringment). This extra media is what helps with water seperation and sediment seperation.

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