Looking to install a coolant filter, probably sinister or extreme diesel. Then I saw a additional add on oil filter kit. I am thinking I will be fine with just the coolant filter. Comments ?
If you want a coolant filter that actually works, go with the IPR coolant filter. The filter element is washable, only full flow type where the other setups you'll see are only bypass filters. And stay away from sinister junk of all kinds. Especially oil coolers
I recently installed XDP's filter, easy install as they don't require any cutting of the factory hoses. At some point though I will probably go with IPR's filter as I didn't know about it when I ordered XDP's.
There's no question that the full flow filter can clean out the crud faster than a bypass filter but the first couple of times I changed my DieselSite filter is was nasty so I know it was catching a lot too, just slower. These days the filter is always clean when I change it so I feel pretty good about it. With all that said, if there had been a full flow option when I was shopping, I would have gone that route.
I have the sinister kit, came with the truck when I bought it. I changed the filter out after I bought it. It uses the Wix #24070 which I easily found. Here's a photo of what came out of the coolant filter.
I wonder if adding a wye strainer like those used in household plumbing systems on the radiator return line would help remove larger particulate and sediment stuff. The smaller stuff doesnt drop out of solution and will eventually go through a bypass filter..
I have the IPR full flow filter set up that comes off of the oil cooler housing then back in to the egr cooler . This is the
true full flow set up . Anything that taps off the heater circuit is a bypass . This has been discussed before to great
lengths and there is very little that can be done to truly filter the system 100 % . In order to do so would require a
marine style sea strainer in the lower rad hose . 18" LONG ( for the flow rate required ) and about $2000 later ya' mite
save your oil cooler .
All of this stuff is really not that effective . When I clean my ipr system it has a fair amount of crap in it and its stuck
to the magnet . This rules out the casting sand theory . I doubt that International is going to build motors with sand
anywhere near their assembly line . They are well cleaned before .
With all this said the true fix is the Bullet proof system that removes the oil cooler from the coolant all together .
I wish I had spent my dollars towards this instead .
You were running Ford Gold though. The coolant filters werent designed to catch the gel that was formed. The filters only solve half of the issue... You still have debris, casting sand, and little gel globs filled with sand. I've only heard of people loosing a oil cooler after NOT properly flushing the system and not running a filtering system of some kind. I properly flushed my coolant system by myself and in three coolant filters saw nothing... I even drained the system into large clear bins and nothing.
So yes an IPR filter may be the best out there currently, but I still stand by the bypass filter as a great addition vs doing nothing. its cheap, easy, and some only require a basic pair of pliers or wrench.
coolant filters catch the silicate drop out and the gel just fine
but when you coolant fails and drops more than 1/2 a cup the coolant filter stops flowing or bypasses if there is enough pressure ( the spring in the bottom )
all the while the cooler if filtering 100% of the junk that runs thru it just like it was before you installed a bypass coolant filter
my Gold coolant had less than 10K on it
it failed after a trip up north where it saw freezing temps and within two hours was seeing hill climbs at over 110 ambient
I find it slightly amusing that the IPR coolant filter is considered way too expensive at $350, but the BPD remote oil cooler is considered a value and worth it at over $2000. Yes, I know, apples and oranges, but it's it really?
I have the IPR filter that I will be removing as soon as it is nice enough to wrench on the truck outside. I have the older style where there is A LOT of additional hose needed to get from the passenger side of the engine bay to the bottom of the degas bottle. I don't like the idea of adding the additional potential leak points. I don't like the way the hose snakes by the evap in order to get to the heater hose, piss poor design IMO..... The filter will be for sale if some one wants it.
I understand your position, but at the same time, it's not that much more hose than the BPD oil cooler relocation unit would use. Also, you can mount it wherever you can find a place for it, the recommended location is just that, "recommended". The coolant manifold reduces the hose length and need to return under the degas, plus gives you pretty easy access for backflushing.
How would you change the design of the filter to make it's function better? The hose routing has nothing to do with the design of the filter, that's on IH, for the initial engine design, IMO.
I'm a fan of the IPR coolant filter. The guy that makes it is a dick and he pissed off a lot of people due to the crappy oil cooler he was defending. He was in the wrong that's for sure but his coolant filter is the best thing out there. That's why a lot of guys talk smack about his filter. Not going to mention any names...
ZMANN
The bypass filters are a joke and I mean that. I had one on my truck and it picked up fine material only. I then put on a IPR with the oil cooler manifold and I pulled all kinds of crap out of it for two months.
I have not seen any upgraded filter of his but the older one is worth every single dollar. My take is its the only one worth buying PERIOD.
Anyone that has seen the difference will tell you the same thing.
I have a bypass filter. My advice is to put that cost toward the IPR. Don't get me wrong...it's better than nothing, but I wouldn't do it again. Seriously, it's a $200 upgrade. We've all spent more than that on stupid chit before.
Should b any more hoses then a coolant filter like sinister diesel, I've got mine right before my oil cooler on my bpd relocation on one of the radiator post.
One thing about all of this , at minimum , a filter in the heater feed hose is a must in my mind . I'll bet changing a plugged
heater core is a ton more fun than doing a oil cooler .
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