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Old 06-08-2008, 08:15 AM
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I don't know where all of you are from but around her the red fuel is ULSD, that is why older tracotrs are having seal problems on the engines.
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Old 06-09-2008, 05:38 AM
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i just heard the problem is with the 2007 power stroke motors and up it is a brilliant piece of work called the " regenerative particualte trap " which the engineers at ford built into the exhaust systems. and `1/2 say it will be ok with the red dyed fuel and the others say that it will be damaged if using off road fuel.

and what the heck is biodiesel anyway?
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Old 06-09-2008, 06:27 AM
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I should have been more specific, but most of it has been addressed already ...

A) Warranty issues on a $50,000 truck !

B) Fines

C) New motors were designed for ULSD

D) All of the above

Not saying I would run Off-road but here in Florida the red fuel we buy for our rental equipment is ULSD fuel it is just dyed red it states it right on the invoice. And down here started the beginning of 2008 any red fuel being bought for anything other than agricultural use is taxed which for us and others who are non-agri guys red is not that much cheaper. Just last week I ordered fuel red costed $4.04 and On-Road was $4.54 a gallon so for 50 cents its not worth getting caught.
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Old 06-09-2008, 07:11 AM
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:45 AM
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Dunno about the locking cap, would think they need probably cause, but then again they can pull you on the road and dip the tank without PC. So, who knows?

I just know that I ain't goin to risk finding out, i'll pay the street diesel prices.
Here in Az all Diesel trucks are registered as commercial. That gives them probable cause.

Even if you use personalized plates.
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Old 06-09-2008, 03:07 PM
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2008 f-550 with red diesel

I have heard bolth sides of this story. i am a hay farmer and use alot of red diesel in my tractors and what not, but i wouldn't advise it in the newer trucks. the newer powerstroks from 2007 up are made it run on ultra low sulfer diesel which is the diesel #2 you can get at your local pump. the red diesel is crude diesel which means that it is still full of sulfer (and as the libs say "hurts the ozone"). I own a 1996 7.3 power stroke and have put red diesel in it before which is fine because it is better for the older powerstrokes, but you have to be careful because it is highly against the law to run that stuff on the public roads, cops set up road blocks and can dip your tank. if red dye is found you better be ready for an 8000-15000 dollar fine.
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:27 PM
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I GUESS NOBODY KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION
I don't know if it is true, but at least it is an EXCUSE ...



How come diesel fuel costs so much more than the regular stuff?

The answer is global demand.



Historically, diesel has often been cheaper than regular gas. But with the rest of the world -- including fast-growing China and India -- so reliant on diesel, U.S. refiners have increased their exports abroad. While European refiners export gasoline to the United States, some tankers return with diesel to fulfill high demand across the Atlantic. Reduced supplies in the United States mean diesel is, on average, about 65 cents per gallon more expensive than gasoline.

While diesel and gasoline both use the same basic raw ingredient -- crude oil -- they require different refining processes. Given diesel's higher price, refiners almost certainly would produce more if they could, but it may take them years to build that additional capacity.


This article was reported and written by Jacob Leibenluft for Slate.com.

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Old 06-11-2008, 02:08 PM
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From what I was told by a friend of mine is that it is 10,000$ per gallon of red dye diesel they pull out of your tank... whether that is true or not, I don't know, but it came from a very reliable source.
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:49 PM
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I was wondering if diesel was more expensive now because it had to be ULSD so that it was more refined/filtered because of that. Is that true?
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Old 06-11-2008, 02:50 PM
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I thought red diesel emits a slightly red smoke which makes it easy for coppers to spot. Although basically it is not nearly worth the risk. I worked with a girl who put dyed in her old tdi all the time. I was young so didn't know but after a while I figured she must of been on stupid chick because she woulda been finned huge.
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