Great new idea......just hear me out

[DieselFord]

Some what possible if you look only east of the big muddy.
That would be a lot of fuel for one refinery to put out.
Also if they do maybe just maybe the others that buy from them may start asking the question what is going on and why.
Maybe only a small dent but at lease a shot back for the big dent to our pockets.

[DieselFord]

People who say it won’t work with out trying.
If you do not fail it just means you did not try !

[mountainlander]

Oil changes hands so many times down a single pipeline it would make your head spin. I worked for Williams Field Services for a summer and one stretch of pipeline had 6 different companies owning the oil in a 20 mile stretch of pipe... They are all in this together. Can't hit just one to hurt it...

[STLstroker]

i just saw truckers in London block off a highway to boycott the pricing. Its not just America getting hit its everyone. Its nice to see the truckers start to do something because even though we are getting hit hard they are taking the biggest beating. If the truckers shut down, the country shuts down. Thats my opinion

[428qbird]

What we need is to drill for sources in our own country. There is an estimated 200-300 Billion barrels of oil there to be pumped up for refining. It's estimated that oil produced in this country could be had for as little as $15/ barrel as compared to what we are paying now - 1$$/Barrel.

Massive Oil Deposit Could Increase US reserves by 10x

http://www.nd.gov/ndic/ic-press/bakken-form-06.pdf

This is just one source of oil. There is of course ANWAR, the oil off the coast of FL and CA and there may well be others. The point to be made here is we have enough oil known at present in the borders of this country to provide for our needs for the foreseeable future. We need to get this oil to relieve the economy now and while we have oil available we need to develop alternatives to using petroleum that can meet our country's needs for the next 100 to 300 years.

My suggestion is to contact those living around you to have them write their so called representation in the US congress, the president, governors and state representatives to express your concern over not tapping these areas of OIL and developing alternatives to using OIL based products. For your convenience I have included a web site that you can track down your representative and their email address, phone and mailing address.

Congressional Email Directory

The President's email address is president@whitehouse.gov

Alternatives could be using renewable resources to generate ethanol for use in ICE, and developing resources to provide vegetable oil for use in diesels. When Ford first produced the Model T it left the factory running on ethanol made from various products like corn. In fact, if you replaced the ethanol with corn liquor the old car would hit 80mph. For ICEs this could be an alternative now with a little effort. While initially it would hit the farmers, we would need to quit paying farmers to not plant any crop as it would be beneficial for them to plant crops that could be used to produce ethanol like corn.

The introduction of the diesel engine was in 1903 at the world’s fair in Paris. It was introduced running on peanut oil but would run on any vegetable based oil, which leads me to wonder how we got to petroleum products for the diesel or ICE engine. I do know if we get off imported oil those states that sponsor terrorism using profits from their oil fields against us will cease to have money to fund those activities.

Other options that need to be explored are to increase the amount of MPG provided by vehicles sold in this country. We know they can give better mileage with a few options added to the cars such as gear reduction, better flowing intake and exhaust, bed covers for trucks, just to name a few. We need them providing our country the best they have in MPG offerings such as the Ford Galaxy minivan (similar to a Windstar) that seats 7 and gets 44 MPG or the Ford diesel sportrac that gives 39.9 MPG both sold by Ford UK.

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We also need to choose to drive 55 MPH instead of 70 MPH or better. Reducing our RPM will improve our MPG and allow our country to use less OIL.

Our representatives should be offering incentives large enough to promote the use of bio fuels and other fuel savings alternatives for the consumers. They should also offer incentives to develop the infrastructure for deployment of bio fuels similar to the deployment of petroleum based fueling products. The representatives should work to develop higher MPG standards for auto manufacturers providing vehicles to this country. We need them to work toward helping the citizens in this country instead of just taking from them.

Rick

[DavidPhillips]

Oil companies are rapidly becoming oil brokers. They don't make enough profit to double or triple production in the US. Offshore profits are very low. The government makes almost 20 times more off of it than the oil companies. It's going to be hard for the oil companies to expand production when they are currently losing ground.

So not only are they going to triple production but they are going to do it and sell oil for $15 per barrel?

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[TurboSevenThree]

Originally Posted by STLstroker

i just saw truckers in London block off a highway to boycott the pricing. Its not just America getting hit its everyone. Its nice to see the truckers start to do something because even though we are getting hit hard they are taking the biggest beating. If the truckers shut down, the country shuts down. Thats my opinion

That's not an opinion bud, that's a fact. And none of the big wigs seem to give a rats a$$.

[DavidPhillips]

We have been paying $5 per mile for hauling. Ever since the fuel prices started going up over a year ago we also have to pay fuel surcharges.

The bad thing for most truckers is they have too much competition and there are too many people who have much lower expenses than the guys that just bought a new rig and have notes to pay.

[Bush_Master]

Originally Posted by TurboSevenThree

That's not an opinion bud, that's a fact. And none of the big wigs seem to give a rats a$$.

They don't care because either they are making profits off the sale of oil or because the cost of fuel does not directly effect them like us. I'm sure none of them had to cut back on going out, vacations or something as simple as groceries...
As they are people that "we" put into office, there should be more butt kissing and less . Sry for the

[Rob]

i read this thread earlier and it linked some videos to You tube, it was a video of a man named Lindsey Williams giving a lecture, he wrote the book called " Energy Non-Crisis", you should go on there and watch them, also read his book. it will give a little insight to why fuel prices are so high.