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post #1 of 15 Old 03-20-2008, 06:16 PM Thread Starter
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Tips on Pumping fuel

I just received this email from a friend. Not sure if its legit, but I will let you all decide



TIPS ON PUMPING GAS

I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... But here in
California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my
line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some
tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon.

Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose , CA we
deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline.
One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and
premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of
16,800,000 gallons.

Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the
ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations
have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the
more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying
in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a
gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the
temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other
petroleum products plays an important role.

A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the
service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a
fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)
stages: low, middle, and high. You should be pumping on low speed,
thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping.
All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the
fast rate, some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor Those
vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so
you're getting less worth for your money.

One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF
FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in
your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates
faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal
floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and
the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service
stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature
compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.

Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage
tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline
is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up
some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will
help you get the most value for your money.

DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!

WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON

Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It
might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We
should return the favor.

An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.

Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into
the coffers of Saudi Arabia . Just buy from gas companies that don't
import their oil from the Saudis

I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies
are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle
Eastern oil.

These companies import Middle Eastern oil:

Shell.......................... 205,742,000 barrels

Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels

Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels

Marathon/Speedway.. 117,740,000 barrels

Amoco...........................62,231,000 barrels

Citgo gas is from South America , from a Dictator who hates Americans. If
you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION!
(Oil is now $90 - $100 a barrel)

Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

Sunoco..................0 barrels

Conoco..................0 barrels

Sinclair................0 barrels

B P/Phillips...........0 barrels

Hess........................0 barrels

ARC0....................0 barrels

All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and
each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are
importing.

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Sweet!!!! !

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Cool Tip!! Thanks for sharing!!

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Nice info, I read this on gasbuddy.com too the other day.

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news but fuel storage tanks have 4 to 5 feet of cover soil over them and they are up to 15 feet deep. After 3 to 4 feet the soil temperature is no longer affected by ambient temperature. The only time the specific gravity of the fuel changes is when a delivery is made. The delivered fuel will be a different temp than the in-tank fuel. If you take your logic one step further then you should only drive your vehicle at the hottest times of the day so that you are burning the "expanded" gallon of fuel and thus cheating the man.

The vapor issue is true to a point with gas but not as much with diesel due to it's lower volatility. Most people spill more fuel per week than either of these "tricks" could potentially save you in a year.
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news but fuel storage tanks have 4 to 5 feet of cover soil over them and they are up to 15 feet deep. After 3 to 4 feet the soil temperature is no longer affected by ambient temperature. The only time the specific gravity of the fuel changes is when a delivery is made. The delivered fuel will be a different temp than the in-tank fuel. If you take your logic one step further then you should only drive your vehicle at the hottest times of the day so that you are burning the "expanded" gallon of fuel and thus cheating the man.

The vapor issue is true to a point with gas but not as much with diesel due to it's lower volatility. Most people spill more fuel per week than either of these "tricks" could potentially save you in a year.
i could'nt agree more. being in the excavation buisness, i have much experiance in digging holes in the ground and once you get 4 to 5 feet down the temp does not change

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56 degrees I think is the constant temperature. I just wanted to say that I do agree with less OPEC dependency and the don't pump while a tanker is unloading part. Sorry to be negative but facts are facts.
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Urban Legends Reference Pages: Tips on Pumping Gas

They are undecided on this. However the savings seems to be minimal or modest.


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56 degrees I think is the constant temperature. I just wanted to say that I do agree with less OPEC dependency and the don't pump while a tanker is unloading part. Sorry to be negative but facts are facts.
I was thinking these same things when i read this. The best thing we can do is choose who you buy from rather than choosing the lowest price. I buy from Phillips whenever possible (originated in Oklahoma) and even if they are a nickle a gallon higher, i know my money is staying here.

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Yeah thats why I posted it I surely wasn't sure of the validity of it, so by all means everyone post up your thoughts. I will say though it does depend on what part of the coutry you are in for temp changes underground. Right now our frost is over 6 feet deep. That wouldn't be an issue in Florida

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