is it bad - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum

Ford Gassers A Place for Diesel nuts to discuss Ford Gasoline powered vehicles!!!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 20 Old 05-13-2009, 09:18 PM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Cj Ford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3,202
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via MSN to Cj Ford Send a message via Yahoo to Cj Ford
is it bad

that my 400 in my Bronco is smoking more then my powerstroke can....

went on a couple wheeling trips recently and on the last one I did some internal damage..I either broke a ring or cracked a piston as far as I can tell. It sits at idle and puffs blue smoke and if you rev it up it will smoke enough that you can not see my garage or the bronco... Im goin to try and get a video of it as I find it funny

anyway I picked up a 351M donor motor today out of a 79 F150 and will throw it in this weekend if I have time, the plan is to make the rest of summer with the used engine and during the summer I am goin to build up the 400 that is in the bronco right now and put it in during the Christmas holiday.

I knew it was coming, I already picked up a Edelbrock performer 400 intake for the build and am goin to order cam, lifters, rings, pistons, bearings, double roller timing chain, oil pump, new pick up tube and a complete gasket set. I plan to get the machine work done to the block and have them go through the heads do a valve job, guides, springs then bring it all home assemble it

my mule donor on the trailer today, its a total drop in mounts fuel pump carb manifolds it has 78,000 original miles and purrs like a kitten just thought id share


1999 F250 XLT 2WD 7.3, 6 spd, South Bend Con OFE, Detroit Truetrac, Tony Wildman tunes, Autometer Boost&Pyro, AFE Stage II, 4" MBRP Exhaust, 2" Daystars, 17x9 DC1 wheels wrapped in 33x12.50 MTZ's

Chris


Cj Ford is offline  
post #2 of 20 Old 05-14-2009, 11:56 AM
Thats Mr. Oil Leak.....

 
MrJohnWayne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Waller/Magnolia
Posts: 9,604
Thanks: 9
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Nice! sorry to hear but looks like you got it all figured out.

John Wayne
Owner and Operator of the
REDNECK VALDEZ
You can find me on FaceBook
MrJohnWayne is offline  
post #3 of 20 Old 05-14-2009, 08:56 PM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Cj Ford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3,202
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via MSN to Cj Ford Send a message via Yahoo to Cj Ford
ya I cant wait to open up the 400 and see what let go ..I hope it didnt hurt the block or crank

1999 F250 XLT 2WD 7.3, 6 spd, South Bend Con OFE, Detroit Truetrac, Tony Wildman tunes, Autometer Boost&Pyro, AFE Stage II, 4" MBRP Exhaust, 2" Daystars, 17x9 DC1 wheels wrapped in 33x12.50 MTZ's

Chris


Cj Ford is offline  
post #4 of 20 Old 05-14-2009, 09:21 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 419
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
You need a 351 Clevland or 351 Windsor. Those things are beasts
rock hardson is offline  
post #5 of 20 Old 05-15-2009, 06:31 PM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Cj Ford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3,202
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via MSN to Cj Ford Send a message via Yahoo to Cj Ford
I dont want to change out the tranny and go with a 351W, if I was to do a conversion I would drop a 460 in

1999 F250 XLT 2WD 7.3, 6 spd, South Bend Con OFE, Detroit Truetrac, Tony Wildman tunes, Autometer Boost&Pyro, AFE Stage II, 4" MBRP Exhaust, 2" Daystars, 17x9 DC1 wheels wrapped in 33x12.50 MTZ's

Chris


Cj Ford is offline  
post #6 of 20 Old 05-15-2009, 07:23 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
blowinsmoke4life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Fort Wainwright
Posts: 1,487
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Garage
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Send a message via AIM to blowinsmoke4life
a 460 would be beasty


1999 F250 CC SB 4x4 4r100 ts chip w/ php tunes
1989 F350 CC LB 4X4 N/A 7.3l IDI zf5 swapped and rebuilt engine. sold
blowinsmoke4life is offline  
post #7 of 20 Old 05-15-2009, 08:02 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
ford_trck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Vail, AZ
Posts: 4,508
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to ford_trck
Do the 460 that would be sweet. I don't think it would stay stock though, bore it and stroke it to say maybe 530 cu in and then maybe you will be happy

Early 99 F-350 CC LB 6-speed
Stock with mods

Quote:
Originally Posted by CloverLeafFarm View Post
Hey Ross, after talking with you i did some research and seems like you chose the right path to go, i knew you were a super genius!
Ross
ford_trck is offline  
post #8 of 20 Old 05-15-2009, 09:07 PM
Cynic
 
Dirk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 11,179
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
screw all that...

400M block
400M crank
Chrysler small block 6.12in rods
Chrysler 340 pistons.

comes out to around 427ci.

Add on:

351C 4bbl quench port heads
351C 4bbl manifold (torqer series or RPM)
weiland 1in manifold adaptors for 351C to 400M
MSD 351C/351M/400M/460 distrib.
MSD 6al w/coil
Jacob wires
750cfm vac secondary carb

Cam specs will vary, I used a solid roller that was very aggressive on my last build like this. I had WELL over 500hp before the nitrous. Once I move to a EFI setup, I was around 600hp. In a truck, use a RV pattern cam, keep the power band from idle-5500rpm, use a fluidampr, upgrade your oiling, and don't use headers. This will put out some SERIOUS torque. You'll be snapping shafts if you aren't careful.

Best Car & Motorcycle Insurance | Auto/Moto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote

Voluntary Banishment: Knowing when to leave.
Total Diesel Performance\Unlimited Diesel Performance\Diesel Innovations\BTS\Terminator Engineering\Swamp's Diesel Performance\Black Widow Diesel\Calvert Racing
Dirk is offline  
post #9 of 20 Old 05-15-2009, 09:27 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 419
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirk View Post
screw all that...

400M block
400M crank
Chrysler small block 6.12in rods
Chrysler 340 pistons.

comes out to around 427ci.

Add on:

351C 4bbl quench port heads
351C 4bbl manifold (torqer series or RPM)
weiland 1in manifold adaptors for 351C to 400M
MSD 351C/351M/400M/460 distrib.
MSD 6al w/coil
Jacob wires
750cfm vac secondary carb

Cam specs will vary, I used a solid roller that was very aggressive on my last build like this. I had WELL over 500hp before the nitrous. Once I move to a EFI setup, I was around 600hp. In a truck, use a RV pattern cam, keep the power band from idle-5500rpm, use a fluidampr, upgrade your oiling, and don't use headers. This will put out some SERIOUS torque. You'll be snapping shafts if you aren't careful.
Very, very interesting combination.
rock hardson is offline  
post #10 of 20 Old 05-15-2009, 09:53 PM
Powerstroke.org Fanatic
 
hardhatz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 118
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
429/460 has same bell housing as your 400M. I put a (10:1) 429 out of a T-Bird in a Bronco & found it quite good. I used Offy Dual-port, CompCam 268H, Rhoads lifters, MSD, and headers. Better mileage than the 351M that came out, and pulled a lot harder.

07 F-250 CC SB
lowered 3/5 DJM Dream Beams
overloads & 1 leaf removed
5000 lb bags & auto-leveling
6.0 PSD/5R110/3.73 posi
SCT3/Eric-IPD/Extreme Street tune
Snow Stage 3 alcohol injection.
Bulletproof oil cooler
hardhatz is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome