NO pto on 6.2L gas

[neil]

My work wanted to order 6 new 2011 F350's with the 6.2L and 6speed auto. But I can't even get the PTO without going to a diesel. The V10 and PTO automatic is only available in F450 and F550 now. What a crock!!!

Dodge won't even offer the Hemi in a 3500 anymore. And I emailed GM to see what they do with the 6.0L auto. These are just small dumps that need a hydraulic pump. The trucks in no way need the diesel engine for what they do.

Its rediculous that I cannot get a PTO on the new 6.2L auto equipped trucks. No way am I paying an additional $46000 for 6 diesel engines. I'll to refurbs with new engines and transmissions on the current rigs and keep them going until something is offered. The trucks are still in good shape body wise and suspension wise. They just have alot of miles on them and we were going to sell them and replace the fleet. Not now.

[Robsr]

Just install hyd/electric units to power the dump body.

[neil]

I know. But thats not how we'd like to do it. I'm sure there are some others who need a PTO for their own particular use. Maybe in the future there will be no other choice. Who knows.

[jimchris]

I wonder why no PTO, its a tranny thing not motor related.

[neil]

Well...I was told the Torqshift for the 6.2L was unique to that engine...and the diesel Torqshift was different...although based on the same idea.

[ford_trck]

I'm seeing more and more trucks getting the pumps driven off the accessory drive. They use an A/c clutch to engage and dissengage them. They are a pain in the *** if you have to work around them but they seam to work well.

[neil]

Digging a little deeper...it looks like what I was told was false. It appears they are forcing people to pay for the diesel option to get PTO...and not much else behind it.

Directly from their 2011 website of information for SuperDuty:

Unlike GM's and Chrysler's heavy-duty trucks, which use separate transmissions for gas and diesel powertrains, Ford's latest HD pickups continue to share a single transmission for both applications. The 6R140 has to be flexible and intelligent enough to accommodate the low-end grunt of the 6.7-liter diesel and higher-revving peak power curve of Ford's new 6.2-liter V-8 gasser.

and

Ford says the 6R140 transmission will be the first gearbox in the segment to offer what it calls Live Drive Power Takeoff.

Power Takeoff is used to power auxiliary tools, like generators or salt spreaders, off of the engine.

By linking the PTO’s output gear directly to the engine crank via a flex-plate connected to the torque converter housing, the PTO output gear continues to turn as long as the engine is turning, even if the truck is completely stopped and the torque converter is disconnected to keep the engine from stalling. In the outgoing 5R110, the PTO is linked directly to the turbine shaft.

“It’s capable of mobile and stationary PTO,” Bruck said. “This will enhance the capability of PTO products that are available today.

But not available on the new 6.2L gas. Yet they also say the 6.2L is "more powerful" than previous designs.

Its intentional. How else can it be explained?

[sportsman500]

maybe they just aren't ready to release the pto for the gasser till later this year ?

[carnival owner mikey]

or they just want the extra 46k

[neil]

Well...thats $7500 if your only buying one. I'm waiting for it to top $10,000.