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post #1 of 7 Old 05-26-2010, 02:58 PM Thread Starter
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M4 vs. AK47

as an owner of both i found this interesting. i personally think the 6.8mm m4's recently built by barrett would fix this problem, but anyways. discuss

FOXNews.com - M4 Vs. AK-47: Is U.S. Army Outgunned in Afghanistan?

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I have a 7.62x39 m4 :-D thats my answer to the problem.



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with all the new modular style rifles being produced this won't even be much of an argument anymore. You can have a rifle with the ease of use of an M4 style platform and the punching power of 762. these days. The only question I would bring up is whether the new modular style rifles can take a beating like the good ol' kalishnakov can

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i have both, i personally am grabbing the ak when the SHTF, no need to have 50lbs of batteries on my back

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I quit at the 5th paragraph because the article is crap. Heres where I stopped to be specific..

"The 7.62mm round in the AK-47 is heavier and larger than the 5.56mm caliber bullet in the M4, and can therefore fly further on average."

Thats so much made up crap as to be criminal. The AK-47 couldnt outreach a AR15 if Jesus himself was shooting the AK.

The AK47 has ballistics very similar to the 30-30. I dont know many guys using a 30-30 out in the flat plains for hunting.

Even the 6.8 isnt really going to solve much in terms of range. The M4 system was never designed to operate much beyond 300 yards. It certainly can, witness Camp Perry for that, but really past 400 or so and you just dont have the right tool for the job. You have a decent tool, and a better tool than your adversary, but not the best.

The 6.8 will definitely bring better terminal ballistics to the table though so it wouldnt be a wasted upgrade.
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The problem with the American weaponery was the gas system used in our weapons. The tolerances are so close that the build-up of carbon easily jams the weapon. Direct gas impingment has no room for dirt, carbon, rust etc. AK's are inaccurate yes, but thier gas piston system garuantees reliable operation with minimal maintenance. Stoner was a good man and great for making the weapon of the cold war (long distance accuracy with light weight) but he did not learn from battle proven weapons such as gas piston rifles.

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I will take my M4 over my AK any day. Far more accessories made for the AR's, to bad ammo isn't as cheap. But I reload so no problem there, not yet any how.

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