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Newbee to Diesels: Frustrated with Cold

Hello Forum!

I stumbled onto this very informative site resulting from a frantic search for answers to my 2001 F-350 7.3L. I am new to the diesel world and have a novice (at best) mechanical ability, especially with diesels.

Currently, I am going thru my first winter with this truck. It has 140K miles. Last Saturday, during a 9 degree day, the truck stranded me. After a tow home and putting it in the garage and heat. The truck started. Imagine how pleased I was. However, shortly after starting and running for 2 minutes. It stalled again...and it would not start.

Having no experience with this type of engine, I called a good friend who had a 7.3L. His first suggestion was to purchase a new fuel filter, get a bottle of anti-gelling juice, mix a 50/50 solution of the juice in the fuel resevoir, heat 'er up real good, and all should be good. I also added some the "juice" to the fuel tank.

This whole gelling of fuel thing seemed logical to me, yet the anticdote has not resolved the problem. I'd say approximately 15 gallons of fuel is in the tank.

For your consideration, I was forced to by a small amount of fuel away from my normal purchase point. Probably 10 to 12 gallons to get me to my normal fueling location.

After reading through several responses on your forum, I have been educated on several topics and I am asking for the assistance of fellow strokers as how to proceed...

Of particular interest, was a post on CPS's (Cam Position Sensors), Fuel Pumps (in the tank I suppose), and/or a batch of bad fuel.

I am not getting any water in fuel indications. I have replaced the fuel filter twice, and the truck has been garaged, plugged in, and kept relatively warm (55 degrees) and I can't get her to fire up...which I was able to do initially with stalls, but she isn't firing at all now.

I am hopeful that this forum could help out this newbee and give me a few pointers on how to proceed with pleasing results.

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post #2 of 19 Old 01-28-2007, 08:27 AM
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First off welcome to the site. Secondly what part of Michigan are you from. If you are close to me maybe we can hook up and I can go over your truck and help you out with this problem as it maybe more then one thing. Or we can hook up and just simply go over your truck and let me educate you some face to face. I live in Michigan as well and Michigan winters can be hard on our trucks. By what your discribing in your post sounds like it could be the CPS or a fuel problem.


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i have always been in the habit of doing oil/filters changes when i get a vehicle that is new to me. i do this bcuz i don't know how long it has been since those were done.
in regards to not starting/stalling:
1. our engines use engine oil at high pressure to operate the fuel injectors. bad oil might result in low performance by your engine or stalling.
2. diesel engines use heat and compression to burn the fuel. the colder the weather, the harder it is to start and more likely to stall.
3. the only the computer knows that the engine is even turning is thru that cam sensor. if it's bad or loose, that would result in rough idling or stalling.

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I can't offer advice on your starting problem beyond what you have already tried, but rest assured, your message will soon be read by those who can, and you will get very good advice and hopefully a simple answer to your problem.

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Wow! Thanks already for the quick responses. I am in Hemlock, Michigan...about 1-1/2 hours north of Detroit.

I am currently going back and forth between the computer and the garage...and I am contemplating dropping the fuel tank to see whether there may be sludge in the tank.

I changed the oil upon purchase. It was the first thing I had done.

I would be more than happy to entertain the educational offer suggested by the fellow Michigananian. Am I close to you?

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Wow! Thanks already for the quick responses. I am in Hemlock, Michigan...about 1-1/2 hours north of Detroit.

I am currently going back and forth between the computer and the garage...and I am contemplating dropping the fuel tank to see whether there may be sludge in the tank.

I changed the oil upon purchase. It was the first thing I had done.

I would be more than happy to entertain the educational offer suggested by the fellow Michigananian. Am I close to you?

Kevin
Yer about 2 hours from me but I am always up for a little road trip. I live about 30 minutes east of Ann Arbor, By the way I am trying to arrange a Michigan Meet and Greet. shoot me a pm and we'll see if we can arrange a meeting so I may educate you some.


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Bigcountrysg,

I sent an email to your account based on the information available thru this site.

Thanks! Looking forward to a reply on how me might proceed.
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Bigcountrysg,

I sent an email to your account based on the information available thru this site.

Thanks! Looking forward to a reply on how me might proceed.

Hey I wished you would have pmed me rather then email me. As I won't get the email until I get home from work. By the way it looks on the map, your about 1.5 hours from me. As you are up by Saginaw. If I go straight up US.23 I could be at your house in about 2 hours.


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Sorry, I am still figuring out all the capabilities of the site. Let me try to figure this out (the PM).
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