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Old 07-17-2014, 11:39 AM
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Desperate for Assistance - NO START

Desperate for Assistance:

2002 Ford Excursion 200K miles - 7.3 Diesel NO Start

My Excursion was running, and started to sputter and proceeded to die. Tried everything I could think of to get it running... ended up towing to a shop that was recommended to me. They verified that the Fuel Pump was fine, the ICP and IP were fine, the HPOP has plenty of oil, but cannot verify HPOP out put pressure..... Hooked up a scanner to it but don't see all the codes.

Can someone assist me in assisting them in assisting me?
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Old 07-17-2014, 12:14 PM
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WTS Light? - do you get it when you first roll-on the key? (shows the computer is running).

Is your truck "chipped"? If so, remove it as a Test.

When's the last time you changed the Fuel Filter?

Check the engine oil level - that will actually do that if too low or too poor quality (Really Old and in need of a change).

HPOP pressure IS ICP. Do these guys have a good scanner? (a "regular" OBD-II isn't good enough). Do they know what they're looking at for ICP & IPR values? They know something about the 7.3 diesel?

No Codes at all? The SES light never came on?
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WTS Light? - do you get it when you first roll-on the key? (shows the computer is running).

Is your truck "chipped"? If so, remove it as a Test.
No, The truck has not been chipped.

When's the last time you changed the Fuel Filter?
Fuel Filter was changed less than a month ago

Check the engine oil level - that will actually do that if too low or too poor quality (Really Old and in need of a change).
Oil level is fine, just took 1 gal, out and topped off w/ fresh Rottella

HPOP pressure IS ICP. Do these guys have a good scanner? (a "regular" OBD-II isn't good enough). Do they know what they're looking at for ICP & IPR values? They know something about the 7.3 diesel?

No Codes at all? The SES light never came on?
I do not know their scanner.. what is SES?
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But, this is a Professional repair shop - right? I would hope that they have a professional scanner (Snap-On, something like that).

Do you get the feeling that they're not "over-their-head" with this diesel? I mean, they're not a Saab Specialty shop or anything

The SES is the "Check Engine" light (Ford says "Service Engine Soon")
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Old 07-18-2014, 03:40 AM
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This is a Professional repair shop with both Autel and Pegisys scanners.... They are very experienced in Diesel and gasoline repair. There has been no SES light.

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Bump

It's now back home... no resolution found..... Anyone?
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Old 08-01-2014, 11:48 AM
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So, still No Start?

If you have No Start & No Codes then I think Fuel Delivery First...

Get a pressure gauge on it and confirm you have good fuel pressure.
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Old 08-01-2014, 05:39 PM
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I havnt seen this listed yet. Have you tried your Camshaft sensor? Mine went out in both of my 7.3's and never once threw a CEL or a code.
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I've had lots of cam or crank sensors go out and never log a code.

On cummins, detroits, mtu's and 1 subaru.

I would pop one if it was handy.
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Well..... short story long... The shop that was working on my beast threw their hands in the air and cried "uncle". Take it to the Dealer they said.... "Have you verified Oil Pressure and Fuel pressure", I said.... "Oh yeah, they are fine", they said... Had it towed home and parked in the Drive-way. Then came the three week business trip....

I got home and started looking at it again... If fuel pressure was good, Fuel bowl should be FULL.... NOT BONE DRY.... Tried priming cycle... No Change! Remove Fuel pump...Bench Test... FAIL!!!! Run to Advance Auto Parts.. Plunk down $150.00... Run home and install....

Turn Key three times... Start.... Rough Idle.. Smoothing out!!!! Fuel pump failure was the cause!

Thanks to everyone that chimed in!

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