fuel bowl fuse blowing - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
Powerstroke.org is the premier Diesel Truck Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-09-2014, 12:21 AM
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 

Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: algona
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
fuel bowl fuse blowing

so my 2003 f-250 7.3 is blowing that oh so common fuse. but it's not the fuel bowl. i've unplugged it the heater.. kept blowing. i switched the 20 amp fuse for a 30 to get it home. but it keeps blowing. the truck started idling very rough. but running completely fine while driving. and only idling rough at random times. now comes the weird part. so it stopped blowing that fuse and now one of the solenoids under the dash just keeps clicking when you turn the key on. it will crank. the wait to start light comes on. the tuner lights up. were going to hook up a scan tool to it today to see what it pops up. but i was wondering if anyone has any quick answers for me. sorry if i left out information. it's late. i just got home form work through the snow in my civic instead of my big awesome 4X4. please help!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 02-09-2014, 06:48 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 

Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,982
Thanks: 2
Thanked 96 Times in 91 Posts
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
We're talking about #30 - right?

And you've already pulled the plug from the bottom of the Fuel Bowl - right?

Well, somewhere there must be a short. I would start by checking the plug and tracing back the wiring to it, over the Valve Covers etc.

Can you locate that noise you hear? The "solenoid"? That would help maybe...

Definitely get it scanned, codes will help a lot.

Oh, Yea, TAKE THAT OVERSIZE FUSE OUT NOW!!!!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3  
Old 02-09-2014, 11:14 AM
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 

Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: algona
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
it is the c2170 solenoid that continuosly clicks. and even though fuse # 22 is gone. my pcm is still on.... i think thats bad.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4  
Old 02-09-2014, 11:49 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 

Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,982
Thanks: 2
Thanked 96 Times in 91 Posts
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
OK, I'm not sure what that is though....

Is that a Relay? Do you know what it controls?

If I assume we're talking about a relay (to me, a "solenoid" is a relay but somewhat mis-described) and it's "buzzing" it is usually caused by a lack of sufficient current to hold it. That can be anything from low batteries, bad connections, or even the relay itself.

In an '03, the two common causes are the Flasher sw, at the top of the column, that's full of crud (because it points "up") and the test for it is to simply use the Turn Signal and that noise stops while it's on.

The second place, that effects All the relays under the dash, is a point under the hood, next to the Airbox, mounted to the top of the fenderwell, under a small black plastic cover marked "High Current". This is where the B+ converts to the Fuseable Links that feed the fusebox and, because of it's poor design, corrodes easily.

Neither of these of course, would cause fuse 30 to blow though....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5  
Old 02-09-2014, 12:06 PM
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 

Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: algona
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
it's fuse 22. and the solenoid is under the dash next to it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6  
Old 02-09-2014, 12:12 PM
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 

Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: algona
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
but whatever was causing m idling issue was causing the fuse to blow. nothing to do with the heater whatsoever. it wouldn't blow till the truck idle would start getting extremely lopey
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7  
Old 02-09-2014, 01:02 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 

Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,982
Thanks: 2
Thanked 96 Times in 91 Posts
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Do you not have an Owners Manual to show you what those relays are for?

If not, go get one here -> Owner Manuals | fleet.ford.com

See if you can figure-out what it does.

The Fuse that keeps blowing is Fuse #22? That is NOT associated with the Fuel Heater, it is a PCM fuse. When blown you'll lose your WTS light and the engine will not run. You must have a Short somewhere else.

Do you have an SES light that's come on? If so, you would be best to have the truck scanned, with a Professional Scanner, to direct you to what is going on (Unfortunately, it takes a special scanner to retrieve them and the Genreric OBD-II scanners like the Auto Parts stores use don't do us much good...)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8  
Old 02-09-2014, 01:35 PM
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 

Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: algona
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
i can tell you right now. you wait to start light still works. cuz it always worked. and i don't have an ses light on. it throws no abnormal lights. i'm still waiting for the scanner to show up
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9  
Old 02-09-2014, 01:41 PM
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 

Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: algona
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
and it's the idm relay thats clicking non stop.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10  
Old 02-09-2014, 03:06 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 

Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,982
Thanks: 2
Thanked 96 Times in 91 Posts
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by RyanMac View Post
and it's the idm relay thats clicking non stop.
OK, did you check the connector under the hood that supplies the FuseBox?

POTENTIAL ELECTRICAL CORROSION if your truck is like mine......
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
Garage Plus, Vendor Tools vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.

vB.Sponsors