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Old 07-24-2012, 04:40 PM
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2005 F350, 6.0, Crank, No Start

Hi,

As I was leaving work today I started the truck up, back out of my spot, put it in drive and took off kind of quickly. I big smoke cloud came out of the stacks... then the truck stalled, and wouldn't start.

Thanks to a quick search of powerstroke on my phone, I tried the following:

1) Tried to start with ICP unplugged- no change, didn't start.
2)Tried to start with the EGR valve unplugged, didn't start.
3) Scanned for codes with my SCT, not DTCs present.
**Update 7/25***
4)Check fuses under dash, nothing is blown, all seems well.
5) back probed the ICP pressure sensor while cranking. KOEO I saw ~ .25 V, when I started to crank it ramped up to a .32V. Sounds like a I have an injector pressure issue.

During cranking I looked at the stacks, no smoke was seen. I also check the oil pressure gauge on the dash, it was registering pressure as I was cranking.

I'm not sure where to go from here.... but I'm now left without a vehicle (my backup vehicle's fuel pump died Sunday night).

Any advice, tips, checks, etc...?

This is for the 2005, F350 in my signature. I have 3/4 tank of fuel, and ~ 96k miles.

Thanks in advance.
-Cal

***UPDATE, Problem Solved****

After replacing the SCT Fitting, then the Standpipes/Dummy Plugs, then the IPR it started. The IPR was junk.

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Same thing happened to me when My IPR died


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Same thing happened to me when My IPR died


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I assume IPR stands for injector pump relay? Is this something I can check easily?
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I had the same experience with my 06. Luckily it was still under warranty and Ford sent a rollback to get it from my house and fixed it up. The only thing I would add is to say the oil pressure gauge on the dash will read normal at 3 psi so you really can't go by that. I would check the oil level in the HPOP if it was me.
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No it's the regulator for the injector oil pressure rail... It's located on the back end of the lifter valley & plugs into the high pressure oil pump.


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If its failed like mine was, you can only tell by checking the ICP via scan tool. If cranking pressure is <500psi the injectors aren't going to put out.


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If its failed like mine was, you can only tell by checking the ICP via scan tool. If cranking pressure is <500psi the injectors aren't going to put out.


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Thanks, I'm reading through several posts as I check this, and I'm going to start by looking at the ICP pressure using the back probe method at the pressure sensor in the valve cover(.84 +V while cranking = good). If that doesn't work I'll have to track someone down with a scan tool... which will be tough.
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:02 PM
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If ICP pressure is <500psi it's the ipr, hpop, or a decent sized leak in the high pressure oil system... Usually a dummy plug. My ipr failed/stuck beyond cranking pressure. I had just released the fuel pedal coming off the highway and it never stopped at idle speed, went from 1900rpm to dead and wouldnt crank. Since it was down i put in studs injectors and new head gaskets :-/


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If ICP pressure is <500psi it's the ipr, hpop, or a decent sized leak in the high pressure oil system... Usually a dummy plug. My ipr failed/stuck beyond cranking pressure. I had just released the fuel pedal coming off the highway and it never stopped at idle speed, went from 1900rpm to dead and wouldnt crank. Since it was down i put in studs injectors and new head gaskets :-/


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Hmmm... that sounds pretty much like what happened to me.

I'm still trying to find a writeup on the install, but from what I know it sounds like I'll be taking the top end of the engine apart.

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Old 07-24-2012, 05:12 PM
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Yea mine already had complete egr delete. Wouldnt be a bad idea to do an oil cooler rebuild while youre in there if you haven't already.


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