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Old 08-01-2007, 07:32 PM
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Summer hard starting

Ok here goes again

I have a 2001 ford f350 powerstroke 7.3L with 225000 miles on it

In the morning if I dont plug the truck in I have a hard starting issue. It will crank and crank and then start. I have to let it warm up for about 10 to 15 minutes before it will move. But once the truck is warm it runs like a bear

If I plug the truck in it starts up right away and there are no problems

I have replaced the glow plugs, glow plug relay, CPS, and changed the oil. I have replaced the fuel filter and had the local garage put it on a computer which showed no codes and it passed the buzz test for the fuel injectors.
some on also told me it could be the glow plug control module but i dont think it has one thats calf. emission right or am i way off on that
So what the heck could it be i am at wits end any one have any ideas

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Old 08-03-2007, 05:58 PM
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ok news update:

I have just finished installing a engine oil temperature sensor and like all the above stuff it did nothing for my problem.

I was offered some advice from a 2 seperate local mechs.

#1 said it was the high pressure oil pump

and #2 said it was the fuel injectors.

Now this is where i am at a loss

could all the injectors be bad and if only one or 2 are weak or bad would the truck still start and run fine when plugged in. But not start when cold.

as for the high pressure pump i understand high pressure oil controls the injectors how do you check the pressure of this pump and could it be bad or weak

HELP I AM PAST WITS END
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Old 08-04-2007, 05:20 PM
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I AM NEW TO THIS PAGE AND I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WHICH IS THE REASON I JOINED, HOPE TO HEAR THE ANSWER SOON.
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Old 08-04-2007, 05:38 PM
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I believe both are incorrect, the engine dont actualy use the hpop 2 start, it takes over after its running a little.. ALL 8 Injectors???? i doubt it.. i had a dead injector #5 for about 7 months i towed big time with it and it started first time every time hot or cold .. got crappy milage hoter engine thinner oil think guys.... I can assure you it s not the hpop My best estamte is fule problem Check 4 leaks, be sure the system is tight ( no air leaks) good staring place let me doa little more research..... Bill OH!!! NO CODES??????
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Old 08-04-2007, 05:43 PM
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Addeded info 4u 2 digest if it was crummey or plugged injectors (not spraying good)it would start than run with a lot of noise like a little guy in it with a big sledge hammer.. If the things buzzzed out good they are good.. Bill
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Old 08-04-2007, 08:46 PM
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would that be all the time lorch i mean running making a lot of noise.
when I do start the truck it is loud until it warms up and it runs quiet.
Also until it warms up the **** truck wont move is that normal
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:40 AM
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Wen is cold will do the banging!!!! if the injectors are bad will do it all the time, the truck should move right off... If that were me i would suspect the trannie aboutthe moving bit..I am dumb on auto trannies.... the starting thing is something seperate IF injectors were not atomizing the fule properly that is where the loud noises come from. I believe these injectors in your model truck are called split shot injectors, they put a small amt of fule in the cylender while it is still on the up stroke(compression) starting a burn just a tad pirior to the main burst of fule causing a " more even burn" of the fule.
here is a sight that you may wish to pruse, PowerStroke Diagnosis > Also try this one for some more info on your engine <http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articles/> here is one that is just interesting <http://pages.prodigy.net/stevebaz/_import/pages.prodigy.net/stevebaz/index3.html> I admit i am at a loss with auto transmissions I run stick shift as much as possabul... Hope this helps you and good luck solving the problem's ............... BILL.....................
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Old 08-06-2007, 09:46 AM
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Well I am starting to make some head way
Last night I took into consideration what Lorch said above.
I then looked through the fuel system. All appeared good with the exception of the injectors. So I tried something and it worked. I removed the fuel filter and emptied the bowl. Before installing the feul filter I dumped a can and a half of seafoam injector cleaner into the bowl and replaced the filter. I ran the engine for about a minute or 2 so the injector cleaner got to the injectors. I then let the truck sit for 2 hours and ran it for about 15 minutes. This morning about 10 to 15 hours later the truck was cold but started right up so lets see where we go from here
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Old 08-09-2007, 04:17 PM
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I had a completely different problem. I took my starter apart today because I seen a comment about the bearing or bushing going dry causing slow start due to the starter binding. I found the gear reduction gears and the bushing dry but I also noticed that two of the brushes were not sliding freely. After a closer look I noticed that the two brushes are cracked lengthwise. I am going to take it to a rebuilder on fri in hopes it will be a lot cheaper than a new one.
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Old 08-12-2007, 07:05 AM
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hard starting

I had simlar problem. While my 2000 f350 was in for other repairs the mechanic noted the hard starting. Heres what he said he did. He removed a valve cover and adjusted some glow plug wire connections by bending slightly. My truck certianly started better and appeared to have better power following his repair. Two months later and the same starting problem has returned. I think I will remove a valve cover and have a look for myself.
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