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can anyone help with my van?

ok. so here is the deal. i have a 1996 e-350 w 7.3. we just replaced the engine with one having less miles. after we picked the engine up from the shop about 40 miles down the road the fuel filter light comes on and then the van lost power and shut off. we changed the fuel filter and she started right up, but only ran about ten more miles. we towed the van to a friends house. there i drained the fuel bowl and filled it with new diesel fuel. it cranked up and we let the van sit and run while we ran errands. it sat and idled for about 30 minutes, and was running strong. we then drove it about another 30 miles with a few stops in between. all of a sudden the fuel filter light comes on again and then the van cuts out. we noticed that the fuel bowl was almost empty, and suspected the lift pump was bad. so the next day i replaced the lift pump. the lift pump was broken. we then tried to start the van and it would crank over and not start. we ended up draining the batteries. the next day after charging the batteries the engine still would not turn over so we replaced the camshaft possistion sensor CPS. cranks but wont start. so i went out and bought a code reader to read the codes, and it doesnt have any codes to read. i checked ohms to the glowplugs and they all seemed to be good. i am wondering if the injectopr driver module IDM is bad, or perhaps the injectors. we have also tried using starte fluid to start her but still nothing. any help would be greatly appreciated....
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:08 PM
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Have you tried priming the injectors? Just a thought. I have always heard that you should never let a diesel run out of fuel because you have to prime each injector. Not sure if that is what is going on but it might be worth investigating.
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ok. so here is the deal. i have a 1996 e-350 w 7.3. we just replaced the engine with one having less miles. after we picked the engine up from the shop about 40 miles down the road the fuel filter light comes on and then the van lost power and shut off. we changed the fuel filter and she started right up, but only ran about ten more miles. we towed the van to a friends house. there i drained the fuel bowl and filled it with new diesel fuel. it cranked up and we let the van sit and run while we ran errands. it sat and idled for about 30 minutes, and was running strong. we then drove it about another 30 miles with a few stops in between. all of a sudden the fuel filter light comes on again and then the van cuts out. we noticed that the fuel bowl was almost empty, and suspected the lift pump was bad. so the next day i replaced the lift pump. the lift pump was broken. we then tried to start the van and it would crank over and not start. we ended up draining the batteries. the next day after charging the batteries the engine still would not turn over so we replaced the camshaft possistion sensor CPS. cranks but wont start. so i went out and bought a code reader to read the codes, and it doesnt have any codes to read. i checked ohms to the glowplugs and they all seemed to be good. i am wondering if the injectopr driver module IDM is bad, or perhaps the injectors. we have also tried using starte fluid to start her but still nothing. any help would be greatly appreciated....
You can't prime these injectors like you can with an old diesel. I would be willing to bet that you still haven't gotten all the air out of the fuel lines, and fuel rails.

And, don't use ether unless you want to pull your valve covers and replace your glow plugs. If you do feel the need to use ether, make sure that you take the big positive cable off he glow plug relay, so they don't get hot. If you hit a hot glow plug with ether, it will shatter it. They can get so badly messed up that they won't come out of the heads, and you will have to drill them out from the back side (means removing the head).

Use gasoline on a rag. Let the intake sniff the gas fumes, and crank the engine. It will run better on gas fumes than it will on ether. Its a two person job. I would suggest that you hold the rag, and let some one else crank. Don't let the engine over-rev once it fires on gas fumes. You have to throttle the engine by moving the rag closer or farther to keep it at an idle speed. It may take several minutes of starting and stopping before the fuel is back where it should be.

I had a 1995 van that the crews ran completely out of fuel. It took a quite a few minutes of trying to get it to run.
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You can't prime these injectors like you can with an old diesel. I would be willing to bet that you still haven't gotten all the air out of the fuel lines, and fuel rails.

And, don't use ether unless you want to pull your valve covers and replace your glow plugs. If you do feel the need to use ether, make sure that you take the big positive cable off he glow plug relay, so they don't get hot. If you hit a hot glow plug with ether, it will shatter it. They can get so badly messed up that they won't come out of the heads, and you will have to drill them out from the back side (means removing the head).

Use gasoline on a rag. Let the intake sniff the gas fumes, and crank the engine. It will run better on gas fumes than it will on ether. Its a two person job. I would suggest that you hold the rag, and let some one else crank. Don't let the engine over-rev once it fires on gas fumes. You have to throttle the engine by moving the rag closer or farther to keep it at an idle speed. It may take several minutes of starting and stopping before the fuel is back where it should be.

I didn't know about any of this, awesome tips!
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