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post #1 of 25 Old 07-22-2013, 11:14 AM Thread Starter
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F450? Worth it?

Ok I have found a 2008 F450 2 wheel drive. I have a 2008 f350 single wheel drive 4x4 with a 4 inch lift and 35 inch tires, I pull a 37 foot toy hauler with it. I it pulls it but get really bad mpg. This past week we went down to Branson MO and on the dash it was saying I was getting 6.8 mpg. I am figuring the tire size and 4x4 has a issue but is it that much of a deal. I bought the truck with the lift and tires on it. But I could afford this F450 at the price?
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Honestly I would keep the 4x4 and convert it to a dually, just going to a 2wd is not going to change mpg that much to notice while towing, however stock height and tire size would be most benificial

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It's a huge brick you're pulling. You won't get any better mileage. May be more bearable to pull and most importantly, more legal
You're overloading that F350 SRW.
I'm also curious what your actual MPG is. Do you still have EGR/DPF/DOC?


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I was looking at a 450 before I got my 350 dually. Other than the rear axle being a 110 I really didn't see anything crazy different worth getting. Also call your current insurance company and make sure they won't charge you commercial vehicle insurence. The difference in price for me was 4500 a year just for the insurence. There's nothing a 450 can do my 350 can plus it's a lot cheaper. Is your truck regeared?


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37 ft trailer, probably 13 ft high and around 15K lbs?

There ain't nothin to pull that with AND get good mileage.

Keep what you got and consider re-gearing it. You're killing your tranny.


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I was looking at a 450 before I got my 350 dually. Other than the rear axle being a 110 I really didn't see anything crazy different worth getting. Also call your current insurance company and make sure they won't charge you commercial vehicle insurence. The difference in price for me was 4500 a year just for the insurence. There's nothing a 450 can do my 350 can plus it's a lot cheaper. Is your truck regeared?


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I'd regear up to 4.56s or 4.88s before I bought a whole new truck.
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I have a 2010 F450. My insurance is only $800 a year and it is a commercial policy. I will say that with the wide track super 60 up front I will turn tighter then a 250 SB. Which makes a truck that big feel much smaller. Plus being able to tow 24,500 is nice too.
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It's a huge brick you're pulling. You won't get any better mileage. May be more bearable to pull and most importantly, more legal
You're overloading that F350 SRW.
I'm also curious what your actual MPG is. Do you still have EGR/DPF/DOC?
Yeap it is a stock but with a lift and 35 inch tires! I know the tires doesn't help the issue with pulling but the other camper we had was alot lighter! My concern also is also being over my weight limit if I would ever get checked! I need to take it down to the local mill and have it weighed!

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I'd regear up to 4.56s or 4.88s before I bought a whole new truck.
I am thinking about regearing now because the truck I have is almost paid for!!! But do I need a programmer to do that? The reason I havn't put a controller on there is they are running around that $1500 plus exhaust and then if I did the regear that would probably run another $1000 to have it all done. We usually only pull locally 20 to 30 miles to campgrounds but then take big summer trips like 1000 miles one way and that is what I am worried about going through mountains!

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