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Question Why the heck is my dually squatting as much as it is?

Hey everyone - I used my father's 2012 CC DRW yesterday to pull my 5th wheel home from the dealership. Hitch weight is only like 1900# and the camper was dry so it weighed in at about 13k. For some reason the truck is squatting and I don't understand why.

I have an 03' Chevy CC DRW that sits a little high when the same 5th wheel is attached. I don't mean this post as a troll (I'm a Ford guy, just fell into a great deal), I just want to get some ideas from you about it. I'm planning on buying a used 2011 Ford CC DRW when my buddy at a local dealership finds one.

The truck hauled it great....it was awesome. It also has the FX4 package so I was really not expecting the sag. Am I going to need to invest in some sort of leveling kit to help this condition?

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Air bags....

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Air bags....
agreed, todays truck have softer springs for a more comfortable ride to please all the soccer moms and dads that bought a truck for the look unlike older trucks that were bought for their ability to actually haul something...


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This is true, while adding the ability to tow more and heavier, they made the ride softer at the same time, while unloaded it does ride nice, but loaded it still rides great but softer and stronger usually don't make the same combo

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Yeah, I thought the same thing. I gotta say, that 2012 my dad has does ride smooth...OK, I'm thinking airbags will be the first mod. Thanks!
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I don't get how they can have softer springs either but be able to haul more, just doesn't make sense. Airbags seem to be a must on newer 08+ trucks, especially 2011+

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I don't get how they can have softer springs either but be able to haul more, just doesn't make sense. Airbags seem to be a must on newer 08+ trucks, especially 2011+
There is more to it, the older trucks lacked brakes and power but had great suspensions capable of hauling more then the truck could stop but rode like a brick. New trucks have better brakes and more power so the manufacturers can claim more payload capacity but they have way softer springs to make the wussy's happy.


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air bags, you can so tell the difference between today's spring/overload spring size to that of older trucks springs

there alot thinner for a better ride as said ^^

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My 03 is actually pretty smooth, I dont see why people cry. Its probably a little smoother than the older trucks. I do not think it rides bad at all and its a dually. Sometimes it could be a little smoother but I dont need it to ride like a caddy either. Its a truck.

I have thought about 08+ rear spings or carli springs, but not sure its worth the effort and headaches of the sagging. Although I plan on airbags anyway.

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Heck my truck rides better loaded then unloaded, I'm probably going to remove a few leafs out of my spring packs, I've got bags that can make up the difference so I'm not worried about losing any payload capacity.


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