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post #1 of 23 Old 11-05-2013, 09:34 AM Thread Starter
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Andersen Ultimate Fifth Wheel

Anybody have experience with this hitch Ultimate 5th Wheel Connection . A bunch of guys on the Cummins Forum are using them but I'm wondering if any fellow .org members are running them. Seems like a great option. They have a few videos on their website to check out. I like that it's not actually a gooseneck conversion. It's more of a hybrid GN/5er. It's way better than the gooseneck adapters because this doesn't change the pinbox geometry or add stress to the frame because the hitch point remains in the same plane. I'm getting a heavier 5er and need to upgrade the hitch. This one is rated at 24.5K with a pin weight of 4500. Best part is the cost.

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Seems like a bad idea to me. Weight limitation of a ball hitch(the ball is still the weak point). bed limitation of a 5th wheel. alignment issues of a gooseneck. You lose the advantages of the 5th wheel but still get the disadvantages.
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I have the reese goosebox. It's not bad. Only rated to 16k though I think. I'm right at that if not a little over. Improved the ride a bunch

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Seems like a bad idea to me. Weight limitation of a ball hitch(the ball is still the weak point). bed limitation of a 5th wheel. alignment issues of a gooseneck. You lose the advantages of the 5th wheel but still get the disadvantages.
I need more clarification on what you mean. Ball hitches have higher capacities than most consumer fifth wheels. My gooseneck ball in my bed is rated at 30,000lbs trailer weight with 6500lbs of pin weight. That's higher than 99% of fifth wheel hitches on the market. The highest rated fifth wheel I've found is the Reese thats rated for 30k but you can only use it in a medium duty truck and up. The bed limitation you're talking about I can see, however this hitch only weighs 75lbs and comes out in under a minute. Whereas a fifth wheel usually weighs 150 lbs or more and you still have rails in the bed. You have a point on the alignment but you also loose the possibility of high hitching or forgetting to lock the jaws and dropping you're trailer on your bed rails.

I'm not advocating that this is the best idea out there but it seems to be a heck of a lot better than doing the gooseneck adapters. From the reviews I've read and the info I've gotten from emailing the company, most people report back that they love it and that all the bucking and chucking of a typical 5th wheel hitch is gone.

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I have the reese goosebox. It's not bad. Only rated to 16k though I think. I'm right at that if not a little over. Improved the ride a bunch

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I looked at that. I just wish they made one rated at a higher capacity.

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What I mean is the ball mounted up high like that becomes the weak spot. Doesn't seem as sturdy as a 5th wheel. Personally, if I'm going to have a ball in my bed, I'd rather have the gooseneck adapter. The one in the bed has the weight capacity(sorry poor communication skills at work) while the one raised up that high shifts the stress point MUCH higher. Seems to me that shifting the stress point that high would drop it's efficiency and capability a good bit.

And honestly, I wouldn't use it with a heavy RV. Gotta be too precise to get the ball exact. I'd rather the hitch let me know when I am in lol
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I have the Anderson on a 08 F350 ccsb 4x4 SRW to a 2013 Keystone Cougar X Lite 29 RBS (Specification Width 8'0" Height 11'11" Hitch Weight 1,405 lbs Dry Weight 7,690 lbs Cargo Weight 2,310 lbs) tows wonderful. No kicking no bucking no additional stress on the fifth because of the higher ball. Easier to hock up and release than the fifth wheel plate and kingpin. I have remote electric landing gear and when I'm close under the adapter box I do height adjustment. Once lined up and lowering on to the ball I let the tongue weight make the final small adjustments. Un hooking with the landing gear down and tires wedged I put the truck in neutral use the remote to raise the box adapter and let up on the brakes just enough to allow some roll either way. Once released back into park and finish the disconnect setup.

I've towed 3000 miles ( I know, not a lot in the whole scheme of things)with the Anderson and no issues.

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Pretty impressive vertical load limits. Almost 55,000lbs before the pin for the ball lets go and just over 65,000 before the unit collapses. It also looks nice and easy to instal and remove. A heck of allot lighter than my back breaking 350lb 20k Kurt slider.


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Despite what the Anderson website says, most local laws require safety chains on all ball style hitches - gooseneck included. Where the hitch is located is irrelevant.

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Despite what the Anderson website says, most local laws require safety chains on all ball style hitches - gooseneck included. Where the hitch is located is irrelevant.
Good point. One I didn't think of til you mentioned it.


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