California Emissions!!!!!

[Vegas250RR]

Originally Posted by Raul@Stealth Automotive

oh did i mention their thinking about tripling our fees

so i would have to pay like 1800 a year to renew... what a joke

Makes Nevada look alot sweeter doesnt it... Though I did see something come across our local board about 14K trucks needing to be smoged this year... but I dont think it required a cat, just a run on the dyno

[smotrs]

I'll have to check again, but I was looking for all the stickers under the hood yesterday and didn't see anything about the emissions. Gonna have to go look again. Is this on the cross member near front top of the radiator?

[nsrchofpwr]

buy old truck, pull the windshield,remove something. pull your windshield, change something. retitle. lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just kidding.

[sevenmalards]

My truck didn't come with a cat, and I don't plan on putting one on.

[smotrs]

I found it. It was on the underside of the hood. Shows the following codes,

U.S. EPA: HDE            OBD: CA II     Fuel: Diesel
California: ULEV MDV     OBD: CA II     Fuel: Diesel
TC/DFI/CAC/EGR/OC/PTOX

I'll post a picture in my gallery and link it later.

[CEEEJ]

Im calling everyday for a long time! this is bull****. why is it there is always some ******* liberal that wants to tell other people what to do? Stay out of my life you dirty hippie!
YouTube - We The People Stimulus Package

[CEEEJ]

been calling and no responce/answer from mister coburn.

[CEEEJ]

Just got off the phone with Greg Coburn.
Asked him a couple of questions and for the most part got some pretty good answers.
Plan is going to be implemented Jan. 2010. This is in response to Assembly Bill 1488. Which basically wants diesel owners to comply by not having "excessive" smoke.
The trucks affected, 1998 and newer. 14,000 or less
I asked why they chose '98 and above? He said it was simply because these were the first years that had OBDs. He also said "this question has been coming up a lot in meetings."
For some reason I thought it was 97+ but I heard it from the liberal's mouth it was 98+.
Basically he said it was a visual test. At start up, vehicle cannot have smoke lingering for more than 3 seconds. Then a accelerator to the floor and release and no smoke can linger.
He said "basically we want to make it so there is no excessive smoke."

Tuners can pass (especially on 08+) just as long as they don't promote/cause excess smoke. He said that they tested an 08 with an "illegal" tuner and that it passed because the dpf ate all the soot. He said it was an 08 with a Edge Tuner in extreme and it passed easily.

He said they tested more than 600 vehicles so far and they had a really really small failure rate.
Exhaust brakes will not be concern for failure and mods like an intercooler, cold air, exh brake will not be cause to fail.
A modification/aftermarket of a main/actual pump will result in a failure.

Basically if there is a "check engine" light on or if it throws and codes from the OBD it will fail.
I told him a guy at my work (me) was talking about removing his dpf. He giggled and said "tell him to hold onto it, if he fails, it would be easier to put it on than to deal with repercussions.

I suggest someone with a little more knowledge of the system give him a call. I felt a little nervous trying to give him **** since i dont know much about how these bills are put into place and what I can do to stop it.

[Raul@Stealth Automotive]

Originally Posted by CEEEJ

Just got off the phone with Greg Coburn.
Asked him a couple of questions and for the most part got some pretty good answers.
Plan is going to be implemented Jan. 2010. This is in response to Assembly Bill 1488. Which basically wants diesel owners to comply by not having "excessive" smoke.
The trucks affected, 1998 and newer. 14,000 or less
I asked why they chose '98 and above? He said it was simply because these were the first years that had OBDs. He also said "this question has been coming up a lot in meetings."
For some reason I thought it was 97+ but I heard it from the liberal's mouth it was 98+.
Basically he said it was a visual test. At start up, vehicle cannot have smoke lingering for more than 3 seconds. Then a accelerator to the floor and release and no smoke can linger.
He said "basically we want to make it so there is no excessive smoke."

Tuners can pass (especially on 08+) just as long as they don't promote/cause excess smoke. He said that they tested an 08 with an "illegal" tuner and that it passed because the dpf ate all the soot. He said it was an 08 with a Edge Tuner in extreme and it passed easily.

He said they tested more than 600 vehicles so far and they had a really really small failure rate.
Exhaust brakes will not be concern for failure and mods like an intercooler, cold air, exh brake will not be cause to fail.
A modification/aftermarket of a main/actual pump will result in a failure.

Basically if there is a "check engine" light on or if it throws and codes from the OBD it will fail.
I told him a guy at my work (me) was talking about removing his dpf. He giggled and said "tell him to hold onto it, if he fails, it would be easier to put it on than to deal with repercussions.

I suggest someone with a little more knowledge of the system give him a call. I felt a little nervous trying to give him **** since i dont know much about how these bills are put into place and what I can do to stop it.

great info bud.... so i just need to prob remove my chip and im good to go... but even then it will smoke a lil stock so well see what happens....

[CEEEJ]

Mr. Coburn told me to look up "diesel workshop" in youtube.
Just started watching. Should be interesting. This sounds like Coburn talking.
YouTube - Diesel Workshop part one