Can I run Bio in my 2006?

[Fat Tony]

Sorry if this has been asked before, I searched thru all three pages in this forum and I didn't see this question asked.

I found a Bio Diesel station a few miles away from me (CaliforniaBioDiesel.com) and I was wondering if I can run it in my truck?

If yes, what are the precautions?

Also, I have a friend who has an unlimited supply of "Red Diesel" or "Off Road Diesel" that he'll sell me at his cost. He's a contractor and I do a lot of chrome plating for him, so he'd fill me up without any questions. Can I run that red crap in my truck?

[Hayman]

Originally Posted by Fat Tony

Sorry if this has been asked before, I searched thru all three pages in this forum and I didn't see this question asked.

I found a Bio Diesel station a few miles away from me (CaliforniaBioDiesel.com) and I was wondering if I can run it in my truck?

If yes, what are the precautions?

Also, I have a friend who has an unlimited supply of "Red Diesel" or "Off Road Diesel" that he'll sell me at his cost. He's a contractor and I do a lot of chrome plating for him, so he'd fill me up without any questions. Can I run that red crap in my truck?

I believe yes you can run Bio in your truck.One of the tech will chime in and help you with BIO. As for the red diesel don't get caught with it in your rig.Out here the law will fine your AZZ to the bone.In a semi it's like 25K if you get caught with red fuel in it.

[Fordnut74]

Your truck will be fine with a quality bio. Just be wary of homebrew stuff, if it is not done correctly, it can have leftover lye in it, and just ask Clay what happens when you get lye in the injectors. . As for the Red Diesel, I wouldn't run it in your stock tank either. Won't harm a thing on the truck, but the chance of getting caught is not worth it. The authorities are still scratching their heads on WVO and home bio, but I am sure it won't be long before the same applies there as well. Not that I advise skirting the law, but one way to be able to get away with running the red stuff would be to put a transfer tank in your bed, and then plumb the drain into a 3 way pollak valve prior to the pump for the supply and return. There are other even more elaborate ways, but that gets more expensive than it is worth.

[Clay Henry]

Originally Posted by Fordnut74

just ask Clay what happens when you get lye in the injectors. .

Do you have to keep mentioning that....geezzzz.

[Badfish740]

Originally Posted by Fat Tony

Also, I have a friend who has an unlimited supply of "Red Diesel" or "Off Road Diesel" that he'll sell me at his cost. He's a contractor and I do a lot of chrome plating for him, so he'd fill me up without any questions. Can I run that red crap in my truck?

Yes, but you have to think of it like this. I used to work summers for an excavating company that would do it sometimes in the pickups (never in the heavy trucks) but on top of the possibility of the fines, its a judgement call. The tax you pay on road diesel goes directly to interstate highways and federal funds that help the states and counties repair their roads. I'm not a big fan of taxes but I'm not stupid either. The DOT guys who are out there risking their necks fixing roads with people whizzing by at 70 mph need to eat too, and the roads need to be fixed. Obviously the tax is directed more at heavy trucks since they do more damage to the roads than you or the guy driving a Volkswagen TDI, but its not like the rest of people don't pay tax on gasoline, they just pay less of one usually.

Now biodiesel or WVO is a special case as far as I'm concerned. The benefits of using a sustainable fuel that pollutes less far outweigh the issue of not paying road tax-especially if you're not operating a heavy truck. As for biodiesel the link didn't work for me but I wouldn't worry about lye contamination with a commercially produced fuel. There's an ASTM standard for biodiesel now that specifies all kinds of parameters including purity. However, if you're entering into a co-op deal with a homebrewer you really need to see the processing first hand to make sure that the fuel is being washed to get any excess lye out.

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Last edited by Badfish740 : 02-04-2007 at 04:23 AM.

[Fat Tony]

RED DIESEL? I'd only be saving 50 cents. Not worth the risk.

[mschn99]

IF you run anything over B5 (5%) bio in your truck and the dealer can prove it....any repair related to the fuel system would not be covered under your factory warranty. Its right in your owners manual. This is also something to consider when thinking about running bio.....

[cleanbeater]

What is this 'red diesel' I have been hearing about? Some form of bio?

[mschn99]

Originally Posted by cleanbeater

What is this 'red diesel' I have been hearing about? Some form of bio?

red dyed is just untaxed fuel. In most states that have it it is also LSD instead of the newer ULSD....but thats not always the case. Basically they just take regular fuel and dye it to so that anyone can tell it was bought as untaxable off road fuel...

[Fordnut74]

IF you run anything over B5 (5%) bio in your truck and the dealer can prove it....any repair related to the fuel system would not be covered under your factory warranty. Its right in your owners manual. This is also something to consider when thinking about running bio.....

IMO, The reason for this is because Ford can't guarantee the fuel quality of what is going in the tank. Sure there is an ASTM Standard for commercially sold bio, But there are so many people making homebrew stuff with absolutely no controls at all. Not to mention the truck has to be certified for operating down to a certain temperature, like -20 or something. And Bio can't do that. The running of Commercially available Bio in a moderate climate won't pose any problems. But like Marc said, Ford "can" still void your warranty. At least for the fuel system.