www.dieselsecret.com?

[03f3507.3]

yes how they say to make it isnt exactly up to par with a few modifications though it can run great i ran it in my truck for over a yr no problems and my dads ran it in his 5.9cummins for over 2yrs...

[Finstababy]

I'm thinking about trying it what modifications did you make to the process??

Do you run it straight or mixed w\diesel??

Originally Posted by 03f3507.3

yes how they say to make it isnt exactly up to par with a few modifications though it can run great i ran it in my truck for over a yr no problems and my dads ran it in his 5.9cummins for over 2yrs...

[mschn99]

Originally Posted by Finstababy

I'm thinking about trying it what modifications did you make to the process??

Do you run it straight or mixed w\diesel??

pm the member az2001f250 and ask him how good it is...he had to put 8 new injectors in his truck within a VERY short time of running his first and only tank of it...

[alfnator]

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Name: Diesel Secret Energy LLC
Phone: (337) 662-6740
Fax: (337) 662-6740
Address: P.O. Box 169
Sunset, LA 70584
Website: Diesel Secret Energy - Alternative Biofuel Biodiesel
Principal: Andrew Klenert
File Open Date: February 2006
TOB Classification: Oils-Fuel-Treatment Compounds
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Upon careful review of all documents provided by the business and consumer, we are unclear about the complaint and the responsibility of DSE. Because of this the BBB has administratively removed the complaint.

In regards to the complaint, it appears that the email address of DSE and the email address on the complaint is the same as the mail account on the yahoo address of Mr. Klenert where the email was opened. Mr. Klenert contends the consumer never did business with DSE.

The BBB is also unclear with what appears as to the reason the PayPal account was closed. Mr. Klenert has maintained that he closed the account, the email from Paypal says they closed the account because of "similar named accounts and the volume of money transfer".

The BBB processed a total of 0 complaints about this company in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period.


Advertising Review

According to the Diesel Secret Energy (DSE) as of March 16, 2007 the company does provide a 30 day return policy. DSE also stated "We make no guaranties for the use of this system or any particular engine".
According to DSE this disclaimer is placed at the beginning of the product manual making a user aware that they are undertaking making an alternative fuel at their own risk. The company's website states it is an alternative fuel and not a Bio Diesel.
On October 11, 2007, the BBB requested this firm substantiate or confirm with documentation on each of the BBB's concerns from DSE's website. The company has not substantiated the BBB's concerns.
The BBB requested actual names and addresses of customers who claim that the product "increased mileage" and "money saving". DSE did not provide the names and addresses of customers stating that their customer list is private information.
The BBB requested substantiation on the claims "inexpensive, high performance fuel that can power any diesel engine and the cost to you is only 46 cents per gallon", "now serving over 20,000 Diesel Drivers Worldwide" and "Our fuel will lead to longer injection pump life". The company has failed to substantiate advertising claims BBB Definition:

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upon request by the BBB.
Also on October 11, 2007, the BBB requested that DSE remove the BBB member logo from its website, the company did remove.

[firemediceric]

Blending can work. It has for me for over two years now. You don't need the magic elixir to make it work. A lot of good info here: Biodiesel & SVO Forums - Powered by eve community

[darsey715]

great info. thanks alfnator.

[mdub707]

I wouldn't run any unheated veggie oil in my truck. I did for one tank, about a 25% blend of veggie and I've since smartened up. Ask Chenry about it. You NEED to heat the veggie oil before it goes into your motor, other wise the veggie will coke up your rings and eventually cause them to stick, allowing fuel (or more veggie oil) to mix into your oil pan.

[planeoldguy]

I'll play.

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[champwick]

Is there any one out there that has used dieselsecret's mixture?

[vegginpsd]

Originally Posted by champwick

Is there any one out there that has used dieselsecret's mixture?

yep. If you need some snake oil, I'll sell you about 3 gallons. Its JUNK.

There are several things wrong with their product and system of filtration. I have switched to straight WVO system and a GRAVITY centrifuge for cleaning. Been running WVO for a couple years and about 60K miles. Theres more to it than most conversion companies reveal. Especially in the far north with -30 temps. Much more challenging running WVO up here.