diesel secrets?

[BudDog]

Try http://www.greasecar.com/

[03f3507.3]

Ive been using diesel secrets in my truck and my dads work truck for 6months now and had no problems! As long as you follow there instructions...only thing I would recommend so you don't eat up filters all the time would be to run ur grease through a water heater to rid it of excess water and to use cloth fliters when putting the grease into barrels to rid it of the bigger chunks and what not...

[mschn99]

after looking at the instructions, and seeing what it did to AZ's truck, i hope the same doesnt happen to you. Diesel secrets is just a cheap, infirior way to meke bio diesel for the most part, and i wouldnt run it in a diesel lawnmower....

[03f3507.3]

Originally Posted by Marc

after looking at the instructions, and seeing what it did to AZ's truck, i hope the same doesnt happen to you. Diesel secrets is just a cheap, infirior way to meke bio diesel for the most part, and i wouldnt run it in a diesel lawnmower....

What did it do to his truck?..and if it is a 6.0 i know that are local dealer ship is having all sorts of 6.0's running bio diesel having injector trouble and ive had my share of problems also thats why ive refined there instructions to make a much cleaner diesel by filtering heating it much more than they say to do and also heating it to rid water...

[mschn99]

it was a 7.3, and he ended up replacing all eight injectors becuase of this...although he did go with Beans performance injectors in the end....but the stockers got wiped out after a few minutes running the DSE....

[03f3507.3]

Originally Posted by Marc

it was a 7.3, and he ended up replacing all eight injectors becuase of this...although he did go with Beans performance injectors in the end....but the stockers got wiped out after a few minutes running the DSE....

hmmm I wonder what went wrong for him my dad has a 97 7.3 in his work truck and hes put over 20k on it running the DSE biodiesel

[AZ2001F-350]

d.s.e. is garbage imo is has costed me over $3000 in repairs for trying to save a buck.i have learned the hard way to do it right or dont do it.dse is nothing but thinned out wvo.if you learn the basics of biodiesel you will see it is very unrefined so unless you are a wvo system i would not mess with it or you will be looking at problems in the near furture imo.none of the dse process deglyeride and deacidfided (sorry for my spelling) you get the point.the is no washing ect. ect. there are reason for doing those process. if you dont imo you wil have problems. maybe not right now but you will and it wont be cheap so save your money you will need it.

[CHenry]

Originally Posted by 03f3507.3

hmmm I wonder what went wrong for him my dad has a 97 7.3 in his work truck and hes put over 20k on it running the DSE biodiesel

WVO has water in it - period. You have to heat and settle to get the water out and this is an easy process with a used water heater but if you don't do it, you will get water to the injectors because there isn't a filter on the market that can take out suspended water. Free water is a different thing. Suspended water is tiny, tiny droplets that are attached to the salts and sugars in the oil and you can not see them. Alot of this suspended water will be removed when you filter the oil down to at least 5 microns, thus removing the salt particles but even then, when you heat and settle the filtered oil, you may get as much as a pint of water out of 50 gallons of oil.
What does water do when it hits an injector? IT's under high presure first of all and water under presure has a much lower boling point. When injected, the water is introdeced to lower pressure and extreme heat. This causes an extreme explosion of gases (although very small) as the water turns to vapor instantly. This all happens at the injector tip. Enough said?
Try taking a gallon of used vegi oil and let it settle for say 2 weeks in a glass container. Don't disturb the sample at all durring this time, let it sit in a warm place. You will see a layer of water and particle mater form on the bottom of the container.

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Last edited by CHenry : 12-13-2006 at 08:58 AM.

[03f3507.3]

Originally Posted by CHenry

WVO has water in it - period. You have to heat and settle to get the water out and this is an easy process with a used water heater but if you don't do it, you will get water to the injectors because there isn't a filter on the market that can take out suspended water. Free water is a different thing. Suspended water is tiny, tiny droplets that are attached to the salts and sugars in the oil and you can not see them. Alot of this suspended water will be removed when you filter the oil down to at least 5 microns, thus removing the salt particles but even then, when you heat and settle the filtered oil, you may get as much as a pint of water out of 50 gallons of oil.
What does water do when it hits an injector? IT's under high presure first of all and water under presure has a much higher boiling point. When injected, the water is introdeced to lower pressure and extreme heat. This causes an extreme explosion of gases (although very small) as the water turns to vapor instantly. This all happens at the injector tip. Enough said?
Try taking a gallon of used vegi oil and let it settle for say 2 weeks in a glass container. Don't disturb the sample at all durring this time, let it sit in a warm place. You will see a layer of water and particle mater form on the bottom of the container.

yeah i understand the whole water thing thats probably why we are having such luck with are dse diesel collecting the grease we suck it out of through a linen filter to remove big debris then we take it home and run it through a water heater for 2hrs then fliter the grease run it through the water heater again add the gasonline, keronsene, cetene, and addative and filter it again through 4 diffrent micron filters and 2 water blocks...

[CHenry]

heat the oil for 4 hours....to 140* then let it cool to 90...a couple days. drain off the lower 5 gallons and throw that away. The rest should be water free.