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post #1 of 25 Old 06-13-2008, 06:54 AM Thread Starter
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Vegistroke installers - I got a quick question.

As I mentioned in my other thread, I'm about to install the Vegistroke kit this weekend and had a quick question.

Regarding the fuel line fittings that install into the unused ports in the back of the heads - is there a torque value that should be used on these when installing them?

I've read the instructions over a number of times, but no mention of torque values - I believe "tighten snug" is the verbage used.

My fear (of course) is accidental overtightening, so figured I'd check to see if anyone has a torque value they've come across when doing this. I'll be super, extra careful when doing it, but sometimes crap happens.

To be honest, I'm not even sure I'll be able to get a torque wrench in there, but never hurts to ask.

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you can not over tighten these...20 lbs of tourque is good and no you can't get a touque wrench in there...Do the front banjo bolts first and see what they fell like when you remove them.
About like tightening a spark plug in a lawn mower...

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you can not over tighten these...20 lbs of tourque is good and no you can't get a touque wrench in there...Do the front banjo bolts first and see what they fell like when you remove them.
About like tightening a spark plug in a lawn mower...
Ok, great. That's about what I expected them to be actually. I didn't figure they'd need to be super tight to seal correctly anyways.

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I will add this suggestion. Apparently Jason's machine shop turned down a relief in the top portion of some of his check valves for the diesel lines. Keep in mind that they have a rubber seal, not a crush washer. They do not require that much torque, and if you're not careful the head of the check valve will pop off! I broke one with a 5" long wrench handle! Once you get them snug to where they require effort to turn with the wrench, I wouldn't go any further than 1/8th of a turn.

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I will add this suggestion. Apparently Jason's machine shop turned down a relief in the top portion of some of his check valves for the diesel lines. Keep in mind that they have a rubber seal, not a crush washer. They do not require that much torque, and if you're not careful the head of the check valve will pop off! I broke one with a 5" long wrench handle! Once you get them snug to where they require effort to turn with the wrench, I wouldn't go any further than 1/8th of a turn.
Thanks Justin, I'll definitely keep that in mind. I really appreciate the heads up!

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I will add this suggestion. Apparently Jason's machine shop turned down a relief in the top portion of some of his check valves for the diesel lines. Keep in mind that they have a rubber seal, not a crush washer. They do not require that much torque, and if you're not careful the head of the check valve will pop off! I broke one with a 5" long wrench handle! Once you get them snug to where they require effort to turn with the wrench, I wouldn't go any further than 1/8th of a turn.
He no longer uses those two piece machined bolts. They are one piece and the tops will not come off if tightened to much.

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Welp, looks like I've already ran into some issues.

From reading the instructions and comparing to the fittings I received from DFA, I'm almost certain I'm missing some fittings.

Looks like I got all the hose I need.

Got the front banjo bolts, got the replacement fittings for the plugs in the back of the heads, got the 1/4" hose that runs from the replacement fittings down to the module. However, I'm missing the "T" that joins the two 1/4" hoses together and converts it to a single 3/8" line running to the module.

Also, Clay it looks like I got one of the tanks without a pick up tube as well. I pulled the two center connections off and from what I can see, no pick up tube.

So...not sure it's gonna happen this weekend...

Here is a couple pics of what I got with the kit. This is all the fuel/water related hardware that came with it





Top left to right - replacement fittings for plugs, replacement check valves/bolts for front of the motor.

Can someone tell me what the elbows are for? I have yet to find a need for them from the instructions.

Bottom left to right - #6 JIC fitting to 3/8" barb - used to run from "T" (that joins the 1/4" lines) to the module and I assume from the module back to the tank. However, to do this, you'd need four of them - so I'm one short. Looks like I'm short some hardware for the tank as well.

Finally, on the bottom right, one #6 JIC to 1/4" barb and one 1/4" flare (don't know the JIC # for 1/4" flare) to 1/4" barb fitting. No clue where these go.

The missing fittings don't concern me that much - I can pick up what I need locally to "make" it work - unless what DFA sends is something special that you can pick up at Home Depot?

Also, do all the barb fittings need hose clamps? Doesn't mention it anywhere in the instructions.

Clay, any idea if I'm short on fittings? Sure seems like it to me.

If someone could just tell me what size lines and fittings go where, I'm sure I could handle it once I pick up the missing fittings (assuming they're not a special type).

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I'm not seeing the hardware to tap into your heater hoses either. the elbows maybe for the fuel line and return line on the tank?
Call Jason, this is unnaceptable and you can tell him i said that.

And then tell him to get me my gosh dern pickup tube!

Then tell him i'm kidding.

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he will probably over night some stuff to you but you can go ahead and do the front banjos, the tank and the hose from the module to the tank. You also can do the wiring and then when you get the other stuff, you can finish in a couple hours.
Jason is very busy and ****t happens...RDS is responsible for the screw up on the pickup tube.

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oh and the hose clamps are for all the coolant hose fittings and the fuel lines to the tank. The JIC fittings don't need hose clamps.

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