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Old 12-11-2007, 06:46 PM
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I HAVE BEEN USING IT FOR 8MNTHS NO PROBLEMS ONCE I FIGURED OUT THE PROCCESS.IVE PUT OVER 8 K ON WITH THIS PRODUCT.
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Old 12-11-2007, 07:10 PM
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I HAVE BEEN USING IT FOR 8MNTHS NO PROBLEMS ONCE I FIGURED OUT THE PROCCESS.IVE PUT OVER 8 K ON WITH THIS PRODUCT.
OMG, I'm going to go out and buy as much as I can afford on my credit card right now......afterall it practically pays for itself!!!
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Great first post...
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Old 12-11-2007, 07:11 PM
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I'm new to WVO systems, and bio-diesel(sort-of). I used to run Bio-diesel in my obs. I'm tyring to do as mush research as I can about WVO and i'm seriously thinking of converting.

That being said, I just checked out that website. Total snake oil. I just spent about 5 minutes reading the entire FAQ section. If anybody reads this section of their website and still buys it, I would seriously suggest that you stop smoking crack. That's the only way anyone would buy that stuff.
They basically tell you:
That they did NOT test this stuff because that cost money,
Your mechanic will tell you NOT to use it, but DON'T listen to him,
If you do use it DON'T tell anybody that you do, because it will void your warranty,
They have copyrighted their material and WON'T tell you any of the ingredients,
Oh yeah, and they don't have an office, so you can't find them anywhere, the're "wireless"
They say you can learn more about the gelpoint in their brochure. Then three paragraphs later, they say that they don't have brochures? Oh I get it, you mean you don't have any FREE brochures! I see where this is going.
What about MSDS? Warranty? Gaurantee?
What a joke.

Diesel Secret Energy-
-Secret is our middle name-
I asked them about the MSDS sheet and they said they would send me one in the mail whenever I ordered it. I told them I wanted to have a copy before I purchase it.....they never e-mailed me back. Go figure
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Old 12-11-2007, 09:14 PM
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I HAVE BEEN USING IT FOR 8MNTHS NO PROBLEMS ONCE I FIGURED OUT THE PROCCESS.IVE PUT OVER 8 K ON WITH THIS PRODUCT.

This is my first post also and I'd just like to say I'll take some what speedy's smokin
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Old 01-01-2008, 01:44 PM
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DSE is just 1 small part of a veggie oil thinning concoction. You're supposed to mix it with veggie oil (filtered), gasoline, and kerosene.

Here's the MSDS for DSE.

DSE additive Material Safety Data Sheet
General
Synonyms: dimethylbenzene, xylol
Molecular formula: C6H4(CH3)2 This is a mixture of the three xylenes, m-xylene (CAS 108-38-3), o-xylene (CAS 95-47-6) and p-xylene (CAS 106-42-3), and often also contains ethyl bezene (CAS 100-41-4).
CAS No: 1330-20-7
EINECS No:
Physical data
Appearance: colourless liquid
Melting point: -48 C
Boiling point: 137 C
Vapour density: 3.7 (air = 1)
Vapour pressure: 5.1 mm Hg at 20 C
Density (g cm-3): 0.87
Flash point: 27 C (closed cup)
Explosion limits: 1.1 - 7%
Autoignition temperature:
Water solubility:
Stability
Stable. Highly flammable - incompatible with strong oxidizing agents.
Toxicology
Harmful if swallowed or inhaled. Eye, skin and respiratory irritant. May act as a narcotic. Typical TLV/TWA 100 ppm.
Toxicity data
(The meaning of any abbreviations which appear in this section is given here.)

ORL-RAT LD50 4300 mg kg-1
SCU-RAT LD50 1700 mg kg-1
Transport information
Personal protection
Safety glasses, good ventilation. Remove sources of ignition from the working area

General
Synonyms: albocarbon, mighty 150, mighty rd1, moth flakes, NCI-C52904, white tar, naphthalin, naphthene, camphor tar, tar camphor, moth balls
Molecular formula: C10H8
CAS No: 91-20-3
EC No: 202-049-5
Physical data
Appearance: white crystals
Melting point: 77 C
Boiling point: 218 C
Specific gravity: 1.14
Vapour pressure: 1 mm Hg at 20 C
Vapour density: 4.4 g/l
Flash point: 88 C
Explosion limits: 0.9 - 5.9%
Autoignition temperature:
Stability
Stable. Flammable - avoid sources of ignition. Incompatible with oxidising agents. Heat-sensitive. Sublimes slowly at room temperature.
Toxicology
May cause irritation. Toxic by inhalation or ingestion. TLV 10 ppm. Sensitizer. Possible carcinogen.
Toxicity data
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ORL-CHD LDLO 100 mg kg-1
UNR-HMN LDLO 29 mg kg-1
ORL-MUS LD50 533 mg kg-1
IVN-MUS LD50 100 mg kg-1
ORL-RBT LD50 3000 mg kg-1
Irritation data
EYE-RBT 100 mg/mld
SKN-RBT 495 mg open mld
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R20 R21 R22 R36 R37 R38 R43 R45.
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Safety glasses. Use efficient ventilation.
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Old 01-01-2008, 01:54 PM
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If you check around on the web you will find it is junk ... I would never use it
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Old 01-01-2008, 01:59 PM
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Hmmm straight veggie oil with out heating mixed with gasoline and kerosense.... sounds like you gonan need 8 new injectors and perhaps a new fuel system....two words... Injector Coking.
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Old 01-01-2008, 02:04 PM
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"Our German technician grew up in Germany where he learned many years ago how to mix a few simple ingredients into vegetable oil to run any diesel effectively."

I don't buy it. sounds a little shady to me.
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Old 01-01-2008, 02:17 PM
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This is my first post also and I'd just like to say I'll take some what speedy's smokin
well i actually sold him the stuff he's smokin. i told him it was really good stuff, but its actually just something i found in the pantry cabinet and put in a zip-lock baggie. sucker! sorry speedy, you set yourself up for that one. do you work for dse?
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Old 01-01-2008, 03:39 PM
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I'd bet money on it he does
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