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DIY biodiesel ?

hey guys, i drive a 07 F 350 CCLB DRW 6.0, and i drive ALOT ! 38k miles in just over 1 year ! Any of yall care to direct me to the info i need to produce my own Bio Diesel? I sure would like to reduce my PAIN at the pump.
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First things first....

Do you have WVO or new oil available to you? Also, the time and resources to make it?

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I guess i have oil available, dont most people just ask restaurants for there waste oil?
Time? how much time is required? resources? explain


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Do you have WVO or new oil available to you? Also, the time and resources to make it?
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I guess i have oil available, dont most people just ask restaurants for there waste oil?
Time? how much time is required? resources? explain


Oh boy.....

I HIGHLY recomend you have 1000 gallons in your posession before you worry about the above question

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1000 gallons ? where am i going to store 1000 gal? I currently use around 3,000 gal of diesel per year. So i am wanting to make 100 gal per month bio diesel.
perhaps someone else can help me?, since i am wanting to produce a small quantity of bio diesel.


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I HIGHLY recomend you have 1000 gallons in your posession before you worry about the above question
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1000 gallons ? where am i going to store 1000 gal? I currently use around 3,000 gal of diesel per year. So i am wanting to make 100 gal per month bio diesel.
perhaps someone else can help me?, since i am wanting to produce a small quantity of bio diesel.

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Twin Fass Pumps B100 & D2 Regulated Return- Fuel Lab
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WVO processed by Simple Centrifuge
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You need to make sure you have at least 1 reliable restuarant that you can get oil from. Finding WVO is not as easy as you might think. You may be lucky & live in an area where you can get it. For alot of guys though it is next to impossible to get or they have to pay for it.

If you can't get oil then everything else is a waste of time & money.

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4 replys and not one single person pointed me to a book on how to make Bi Diesel, or said how they started making Bio Diesel. I expected more info from verterans of this Forum. I guess i will do this on my own. Veggin psd, "tells me i got to start with 1,000gal or dont bother! Really ? i highly doubt any one starts with 1,000 gals of oil there first couple of batches. I am not out to start my own refinery.
I think i can get the oil, guy i work with, his brother in law owns a restaurant, so theres my oil .

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1000 gal may be over kill but he knows what he's talking about. Wvo isn't easy to get. I've got several buddy's with restaurants and have only talked one out if 5 gal a week free.

My advice is to read a lot. Google Bio forums. Spend about a month sifting thru all the info. Them make your decision. Bio may be good or bad for you. I started looking into Bio but was turned off on having caustic chemicals in my garage where my 1 year old plays.

Making Bio isn't as easy as grabbing some oil from a waste bin putting a cup of lye a gal of methonal and go to bed. Wake up with Bio. Its a process that takes a lot of time and resources. You have to make it a hobby. It will consume a lot more time than you think.


As far as storage. Get on craigslist and look for ibc totes. I've got a couple 275 gallon totes along with about 5 55gsl drums in the garage.


Good luck on what ever you decide. There are a lot of very knowledgable guys here. Do some reading...Google Bio diesel processors. Ask questions, and always be respectful.

I check this often and will pipe in with what little knowledge i have. I've been reading and asking retarded questions for about a year now


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4 replys and not one single person pointed me to a book on how to make Bi Diesel, or said how they started making Bio Diesel. I expected more info from verterans of this Forum. I guess i will do this on my own. Veggin psd, "tells me i got to start with 1,000gal or dont bother! Really ? i highly doubt any one starts with 1,000 gals of oil there first couple of batches. I am not out to start my own refinery.
I think i can get the oil, guy i work with, his brother in law owns a restaurant, so theres my oil .
First step to QUALITY B100......
SHUT mouth. OPEN mind.
READ READ READ.
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I said 1000 gallons because judging by your line of questioning, you are clueless, and your later posts prove it. Thus, telling you 1000 gallons was a buffer, figuring you would find 500. That seems like a lot but it is not. If you are wanting to burn 100 gallons a month, buy it. I have spent tens of thousands of dollars and thousands of hours getting to where I am today. You will likely never achieve that, and surely wont do it on a forum. As far as WVO and B100 you can only learn so much from a forum. Remember, some inventing needed to occur along the way, and you pissed on the cheerios of one of the guys who have cracked a few nuts in the alternative fuel circle over the years. I can tell you the chemical formula for transesterfications and the conditions in which a complete reaction will occur and how to test for it, but I will not. You seem to know it all already.

Good luck.

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Casserly Stage 2's-TE Modded 17 HPOP
DP Tuner F6 & PMT1-Van Turbo Non EBPV & 6637
Twin Fass Pumps B100 & D2 Regulated Return- Fuel Lab
Isspro Pyro, Trans, Boost-Air and Fuel Temp
WVO processed by Simple Centrifuge
B100 by Biopro 190
B100 powered Excursion, F250 CCSB, and Two TDI Jettas
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