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post #1 of 8 Old 04-13-2011, 09:46 AM Thread Starter
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Which CF bowl ??

I am building my own CF I would like opinions on which bowl/rotor to use. The Simple Cf with the fancy cone, or the open one from WVO Design Is the one from Simple Centrifuge worth the extra $300.00

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i was looking at the simple cf site yesterday. the cone results are interesting. worth the extra $$ though.. dunno. if i had $650 to part with i would probably do the simple cf with cone.

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I run a simple bowl. Mine is the older one with no cone. I have heard from a member here on the .org that he has allot of maintenance with the cone on his simple CF.

It fills up and gets clogged allot. I guess maybe if your CF'ing really clean oil you won't have as much bowl cleaning to do.

My neighbor runs one of Leon's CF. He likes it and hasn't complained one bit.

I like the see through lid on mine. I was told by my buddy that I would get tired of looking at it, but nope! I love my see through lid.

I'd lean towards getting the Simple CF, and just make sure you OVER settle your oil before filtering.
But to complicate things... I don't think you could go wrong with the WVO Design CF either.

Once the money is spent, you soon forget. But if you get something your not happy with, it'll bug you forever.

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If Made in America means anything to you consider Simple Centrifuge, OR Absolute Centrifuge. Both excellent quality and American Made.

Leons product in NOT MADE in America, or balanced. It is cast aluminum, turned on a lathe in a foreign country.

I would pay for the American Quality and I prefer Simple Centrifuge. They are the pioneers of gravity fed CF's for our application, have made the capitol investments and busted their a$$es for "the VO community" and continue to develope new and innovative products for others to copy.

However, the WVO Designs CF is significantly less money because apparently that is what Leon thinks it is worth,

Just my humble opinion based on facts, however, I could be wrong.

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If your on a budget go with the WVO designs bowl, if you value a high quality product that is American made then go with the simple bowl. Have a friend of mine that went the non American route and has had zero issues and loves it... Just sayin

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I have an absolute CF and motor then made my own unit for a total of about 650-700 bucks.
Stay away from WVO Designs... Just my opinion.

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OP, you won't be disappointed with any open bowl design that you buy. They all work the same. The oil drips into the bowl, gets spun around and the water and crud pushes to the wall. The clean oil moves to the center and spills over the lip to get captured by your outer container. The clean oil drains into your clean storage vessel. When you shut down the motor, the water and crud drains out of the bowl into your dirty capture vessel. IMO, the WVO Designs system is great. I've used it to spin about 2000 gallons with good results and no problems. But everyone with the other CFs are just as happy with theirs and some of them have been doing it longer than me.

You'll need to rig up a way to pre-heat the oil before it hits the bowl. It's not hard to do and two of the CF manufs have the feature built in. Just make sure it's a "sump" design where the oil goes in the bottom of the heater and out of the top - this way if for some reason the heater is on and the oil in your gravity feed vessel runs out, you still have oil in contact with the heater and it won't catch fire and burn down your garage.

Another differentiater is a feed cone. Simple's and WVO's both have it. I just added WVO's feed cone to mine (the "booster") and it does appear to get the oil cleaner. Previously, I just had extended the dirty oil drip line down to the bottom of the bowl. This helps to introduce the oil to the bowl more gently. But you still get some "splashing" or "mixing" or "bouncing" of the dirty oil as it enters the column of spinning oil in the side of the bowl. The feed cone introduces the oil down at the bottom of the column so you don't have such a violent mixing reaction. So, as you build your system, you should probably try to incorporate that feature - it works better.

A clear lid would be cool. I would like to have a clear lid on mine to see what's going on. Either way, have your venting sorted out before you build your system. With wet oil, you'll get vapor from the CF. You don't want that mixing with your cleaned oil, so a vent or two in the lid will help route the vapor. Also, set up your clean drain line as a "sump" so that it remains filled with oil right up to the CF. Then, there's no chance for the vapor to escape down your clean drain line and end up as water in your clean storage barrel.

Good luck with your filtration project!

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