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Old 03-25-2011, 09:20 AM
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NEW TO BIO WITH TONS OF QUESTIONS??????

My best friend has a 7.3L powerstoke the other day he started talking about running V.O. in his truck so he got some used oil from a friend of ours resturant filtered it threw a 5 micro filter & mixed it with regular diesel fuel from the pump & drove off I havent heard from him yet to hear how it worked but does anyone know if thats a good idea to do. Also I have a 2005 6.0L that I would like to start running this mixture in it but want to make sure this is a good idea first? I have tryed doing resource of this but everything online I find is people mixing the oil with methonal & other chemicals before running it n there trucks. So all Im looking to do is filter the crap out of the oil & mix it with regular diesel fuel is this a good idea or bad idea???? And does anyone know if Im safe doing a 50/50 mix or should I do less or more???? TIPS AND ADVISE PLEASE!!!
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no. bad idea.

the methanol thing you mention is actual biodiesel conversion, which is perfectly fine however.

it is a bad idea to mix. the proper way is to run a conversion kit. start on diesel to warm up, run vo, and stop on diesel to flush the fuel system of the vo. the vo is put in a second coolant heated tank to reduce viscosity. there are numerous accounts of damage from mixing the two and cold starting and idleing. you can however mix D2 and VO in a heated tank.

some people will tell you its ok, some dont ahve issue. or at least not yet.
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Agree with above.

If you're going to do this, either make biodiesel and blend that with your diesel or make/buy a conversion kit and run svo. You're playing with fire if you don't.

Furthermore, simply running vo through a bag filter isn't nearly enough to make it safe to run. There's a good reason that people are spending hard earned money on equipment to filter and dewater their oil.
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I thought it was possible to run on V.O. mixtures without doing a complete "conversion" which is what I was thinking. So is there a way to run off V.O. with out having to do a seperate tank & lines & switches or no?
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ok thanks snake I found another website that helped exsplain this alittle better to me than my friend did. I was thinking that biodiesel was V.O. & diesel mixed but biodiesel is actually the methonal & other mixtures mixed with V.O. & then mixed with diesel & then put threw the truck. CORRECT????
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you are correct sir!

the only proper way to run VO is with a conversion.

you can blend any amount of bio with D2 you want, or just B100.
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I thought it was possible to run on V.O. mixtures without doing a complete "conversion" which is what I was thinking. So is there a way to run off V.O. with out having to do a seperate tank & lines & switches or no?
It will run, but you're expediting the failure of your motor.

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ok thanks snake I found another website that helped exsplain this alittle better to me than my friend did. I was thinking that biodiesel was V.O. & diesel mixed but biodiesel is actually the methonal & other mixtures mixed with V.O. & then mixed with diesel & then put threw the truck. CORRECT????
Yessir. Bio is essentially wvo, methanol, and lye. You'll see it called B5, B20, B50, B100, etc.. The number refers to the percentage of bio in a biodiesel / diesel blend. B100 is 100% biodiesel. B50 is a mixture of 50% biodiesel, 50% diesel.
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There are some engines that you can mix SVO with D2 & dump it in your tank & go. Your 6.0 is NOT one of them. If you value your engine & don't want to empty your pocket book fixing it then either make bio or put a second tank system in & heat the VO.

Your driving habits will determine which way to go. Have alot of short drives ( 10-20 k miles or less) then bio is for you. Alot of longer drives then I would strongly suggest going SVO. Bio is a pain in the but to make IMHO & requires the use of dangerous chemicals to make it. With SVO you filter & dewater it by heating settling or centrifuging Dump in your heated conversion tank system & your done. I prefer centrifuge over heat & settle.

Before you do anything have you found a source of VO? That's the first thing you need to do. Everything else doesn't matter if you can't get any oil.
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