Bio noobs wanting to start brewing - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
Bio-Diesel/Alternative Fuels and Supplements Bio-Diesel and related Discussion. Ask Questions and discuss what has worked for you here.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 13 Old 03-12-2011, 11:25 AM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Dallas TEXAS
Posts: 205
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Bio noobs wanting to start brewing

I have converted my father in law and friends from dodge gassers to 7.3 drivers. So we have three 7.3s(01/03/01) we are wanting to fuel. None of us have experience with Any of this. We are looking at buying a processing station and have one restaurant committed for oil to get us started making fuel right. We have been looking at the Biodiesel Kits - Biodiesel Processors - Making Biodiesel systems but I am asking the Powerstroke guys what our trucks prefer as far as bio kits and what we should look into. Or if there is any members in/near DFW and wouldn't mind helping us get going.

THX for anything

Joel
01 Platinum Edition-330k miles
Swamps 6 Pos., 200/30 Hybrids, WW1, EBP delete, ARP Studs, 910 Springs, FRx, HPX, High Flow CVD Fittings, Smith Bros Pushrods, 4" Magnaflow Stainless, ITP Fooler, EGT/Boost/Trans gauges
Ford AIS, Cowl Hood, Shaved Tailgate, 6.0 paint to match TT Mirrors, 6.0 Tranny Cooler, BTS Valvebody & Accumulator Body, Transfer Flow 46 gal tank w/ harpoon mod, AirRide Bags, Billet Grille, 03 headlights/Corners, 6k HID kit, 08 diff cover, 08 tail lights
ProStarPony is offline  
post #2 of 13 Old 03-12-2011, 01:23 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Kaneohe, HI and Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 928
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
that "kit" is a rip off.

Early 99 crew cab long bed SRW
Vegistroke V3.
Support Grease Mafia on Facebook
erbilabuc is offline  
post #3 of 13 Old 03-16-2011, 05:58 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Aaron Berk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Wilmington Island, GA
Posts: 739
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
That's a pretty nice looking high priced kit.

I'm totally ignorant to Bio, but come on erbilabuc you need to offer more information.

You can't just leave a 1 sentence reply condemning the kit posted.
Back up your statement, why is it a ripoff?
How much processor experience do YOU have?

I like to build my own stuff, but some ppl like to buy premade products and are willing to pay the extra cost associated with those manufactured goods.

So why is it a ripoff, and what would be a better option for a turnkey kit?

97 F250 ext cab lwb 4x2
AirDog2 and FASS HD (it's a WVO RR setup)
Simple Centrifuge filtering method
203 degree Mod, DIY homegrown intake, CCV mod, battery relocation,
215amp Ambulance Alt.
EBPV gut, Pedestal gut & cut
Diamond Eye 4" (3" dp) turbo back straight pipe no kitty, no muffler


http://wasteveggieoilexplorations.shutterfly.com
Aaron Berk is offline  
post #4 of 13 Old 03-16-2011, 08:58 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
tubular031's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: WAY north Texas
Posts: 2,409
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I built my first processor for about $350 ish.


Then I added settling stations and dry washing



Here is what I learned after many many trials, changes, and setups....
Dont waste your time with water washing! 5% prewash at the end of the conversion, settle out the glycerine, recover or heat out the methanol, let settle for as long as you can then dry wash. I used purolite in corny kegs. my buddy used ecopure and had good results.

after much tinkering and learning I jumped ship and now use a CF to filter wvo and burn it without conversion to the oil. you do need to convert the truck. I am in Anna not too far north from you.

Just a basic 01 F350 CCLB SRW -Good from a far but far from good
tubular031 is offline  
post #5 of 13 Old 03-16-2011, 09:04 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Aaron Berk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Wilmington Island, GA
Posts: 739
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Tubular, awesome little fuel depot you got there.

Mine looks somewhat similar, but far messier.
I've toyed with the thought of doing Bio and WVO that way I would never have to stop at a fuel station again.

97 F250 ext cab lwb 4x2
AirDog2 and FASS HD (it's a WVO RR setup)
Simple Centrifuge filtering method
203 degree Mod, DIY homegrown intake, CCV mod, battery relocation,
215amp Ambulance Alt.
EBPV gut, Pedestal gut & cut
Diamond Eye 4" (3" dp) turbo back straight pipe no kitty, no muffler


http://wasteveggieoilexplorations.shutterfly.com
Aaron Berk is offline  
post #6 of 13 Old 03-16-2011, 09:19 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
tubular031's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: WAY north Texas
Posts: 2,409
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Be careful about running biod and WVO. go look up skyskijason on frybird and his posts about that maybe 1-2 years ago. Biod is scary stuff to make. nasty stuff to make the reaction, the fumes are nasty and it takes lots of heat for a long time to do the reaction. Please be careful with the methoxide...

Just a basic 01 F350 CCLB SRW -Good from a far but far from good
tubular031 is offline  
post #7 of 13 Old 03-16-2011, 09:34 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Aaron Berk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Wilmington Island, GA
Posts: 739
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I'm talking distant future, I've got no clue about bio yet.
I'm still happy to run just WVO for now.
When I move to a bigger place and get off the grid, then I'll dip into bio.......

SkyskiJason is a well know name with me. I'm a big fan of his knowledge and have tried to get him to drive down my way. He also lives in GA

97 F250 ext cab lwb 4x2
AirDog2 and FASS HD (it's a WVO RR setup)
Simple Centrifuge filtering method
203 degree Mod, DIY homegrown intake, CCV mod, battery relocation,
215amp Ambulance Alt.
EBPV gut, Pedestal gut & cut
Diamond Eye 4" (3" dp) turbo back straight pipe no kitty, no muffler


http://wasteveggieoilexplorations.shutterfly.com
Aaron Berk is offline  
post #8 of 13 Old 03-16-2011, 10:26 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
tubular031's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: WAY north Texas
Posts: 2,409
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Jason stopped by my place on one of his many trips. He is a really good dude! Making bio in your garage is kinda scary. mixing methanol in your garage is freaky and you need some really good air flow.

Just a basic 01 F350 CCLB SRW -Good from a far but far from good
tubular031 is offline  
post #9 of 13 Old 03-16-2011, 11:04 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Kaneohe, HI and Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 928
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I say the kit is a rip off because its not worth the 3500$. I had double the amount of equipment and I paid 630$ for it. The thing is that with bio d you will always be upgrading to make it easier on you as far as storage of the wvo, the reaction mix, methoxide and final product. You will spend 3500$ on that kit and then realize you need to buy more tanks and pumps. Its not a POS kit, just really expensive.

Early 99 crew cab long bed SRW
Vegistroke V3.
Support Grease Mafia on Facebook
erbilabuc is offline  
post #10 of 13 Old 03-17-2011, 04:17 AM
Serving Our Country!
 
knostroke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Corpus Christi
Posts: 721
Thanks: 6
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 10 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by erbilabuc View Post
I say the kit is a rip off because its not worth the 3500$. I had double the amount of equipment and I paid 630$ for it. The thing is that with bio d you will always be upgrading to make it easier on you as far as storage of the wvo, the reaction mix, methoxide and final product. You will spend 3500$ on that kit and then realize you need to buy more tanks and pumps. Its not a POS kit, just really expensive.
post up some pics and diagrams for home bult bio processors

2004 FX4 CC w/zf6 ! <><
knostroke is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome