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Old 11-23-2010, 09:39 AM
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Is it worth it to process?

Me and a buddy have just started looking into getting a biodiesel processor lately. I was just wondering if it is worth the cost to do such a thing, and how hard it is to get everything set up and running. Between the 2 of us we figured we would use about 150 gallons a month and with diesel being around $3 per gallon we have a few other buddy's that have diesels that might be interested in it if we go through with this plan. I dont think there will be a great supply of it to get around here from local businesses, so we would probably have to buy the cooking oil from a supplier... I have looked at machines on the net for about 3k, and most of the prices on the oil seems to be about $1.50 per gallon. So if anyone can help me out with more information on the pros and cons i would appreciate it, or where i can get oil cheaper I live in the northwest ohio area. thank you!
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Old 11-23-2010, 09:54 AM
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A buddy of mine swears by it but don't buy a prebuilt set, thats a rip off. Study the process, get 2 hot water heaters, a holding tank, hoses, fittings, pump, etc and you might be out about 800.00. Look online for some biodiesel processor plans, there are plenty out there for free but if your going to pay for one, I have heard that the fuel miesters are great.

I suggest that you carry a couple extra fuel filters with you, biodiesel will clean every but if trash out of your tank, lines, fittings, etc. Be prepared to replace a fuel filter on the side of the road though. After the first couple, it cleans it out and you will be fine.
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Old 11-23-2010, 11:35 AM
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cost ranges between $1 and $1.50 in my research. but if you have to pay fro oil that will obviously go up. in the winter youll need to blend as bio will crystalize and gel between 30*F and 45*F depending on the feedstock and conversion.

have you looked into wvo systems?
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Have the best of both worlds. If you are close to me I have a biodiesel system for sale. I make bio and have a SVO system in my truck. Once you get it going you will wonder why no one else is doing it. Yes: never stopping at a gas station is definitely worth it.
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Old 11-24-2010, 12:14 AM
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What kind of changes do u have to make to run svo rather than running used cooking oil. I understand that if I get the oil from local bus. ill need to filter it, am I going to have to seperate the water to?
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if i needed 150 gal a month i would do wvo. chk out the stickys.
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What kind of changes do u have to make to run svo rather than running used cooking oil. I understand that if I get the oil from local bus. ill need to filter it, am I going to have to seperate the water to?

SVO = straight vegetable oil
WVO= Waste vegetable oil
Its the same thing and yes you have to filter and dewater it. I suggest a centrifuge. Even if you are just considering it you should start collecting now. I really would do biodiesel and SVO because your costs of making Biodiesel will reach a significant level if you have to pay for your oil. Remember that it costs around 5$ for 1 gallon of methanol and it takes 1 gallon of methanol to make 5 gallons of biodiesel. Luckily I found a guy that sells bio for 1.50$ a gallon.
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methanol is more expensive in the winter. here around $4 a gallon. in the summer ive seen it down to $2.90. thats only if its purchased 55 gallons at a time. it goes up significantly if you buy less.

even if you run bio you will need to de-water. water will screw up the conversion process like you wouldnt believe. how far is your average trip?

what i like about wvo is you spin it and its ready to run (with a conversion kit of course) bio you have to wait for. ill eventually make some to run in addition to my wvo system. but for now, i drive 1500 miles a month minimum, wvo is much easier for me. my shortest trip is 40 miles one way.
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