bio-diesel / alternative fuel . 2005. 6 liter stroker

[jason]

i was wandering if anyone has used bio-diesel , or any other type of alternative fuel in a 6.0 liter powerstroke ??? if so what were the effects on the engine. performance, mileage, and if so how often do the fuel filters need changed? would you recommend trying these fuels???? thanks , jason

[mschn99]

i have worked on a few that have tried it. i can not giver any first hand experince from a users standpoint....but the ones i have worked on have had MAJOR injector issues.......the lubricity isnt consistant enough and after talking to one of the guys he says his power is very up and down depending on the tank of fuel. i put 7 injectors in one of them over the corse of three weeks to get it running right agian....and it came in for the eight one about four weeks later......he stopped using bio in his..........Marc

[mschn99]

another thing i tought i should bring up...i have not talked to or heard anything credibal as far as waste veggie oil in a 6.0.........i dont have any idea how it runs in a 6.0, and i dont even know if anyone is offering heated fuel line kits for the 6.0 yet to run it properly.......Marc

[dgramenz]

Marc, could you clarify on that truck you put injectors in? I'm assuming he was using either homeade biodiesel or filtered used vegetable oil. True biodiesel has very good lubricity properties, better than regular diesel. I just want to make sure everything is straight because biodiesel is really getting a bum rap from some people. It frustrates me because we raise a lot of soybeans (the key part of biodiesel) and I keep up on how it's progressing and I see a lot of "facts" being spread that aren't really facts. I don't mean any offense at all you or your experience.....just trying to make sure everyone gets the right info.

[mschn99]

the 6.0 that had the major problems was running pump bio. i have seen many 7.3's run it with no problem....but for some reason the 6.0's dont seem to be able to handle it as well. on the ford website there is a message board and on there it seems as though im not the only one to see problems from it. Homeade BIO would definately be a no no in them, but from what ive personally seen in trucks i wouldnt run commercial bio in a 6.0 either........sorry to say it since you seem to be big on it....but 6.0 injectors are SO picky about fuel quality, lubricity, ETC that i honestly can say that if i owned one i wouldnt run bio of any sort.....Marc

[dgainer]

Hi Guys,

I have a 2005 6.0 that I have been running on B5 Bio since new. I have put about 22k miles on in that time with now problems. The bio I get is soy- diesel blend. I don't know about any home made stuff. Mileage is 17 stock, and 16 superchiped, with no noticeable diff in power. Winter starting was fine.

dgainer
2005 F350 6.0
AFE intake
4" Exhaust
Superchips programer

[Dennis K]

Back in 04 I had chance to buy a used F250 PSD stick. Instead I thought the 6.0 would be better and got it instead. How wrong I was back then. I have not had a problem with my 6.0 stick, yet. It currently has 47K miles. I did ask one mechanic about using bio-diesel and he said that for the 6.0, use no more than 5% bio-diesel. 100% stuff was out of the question. In the next town over, in Oneonta NY, they now have a B20 pump. Last price I saw was 3.10 per gal. about 3-4 cents more than the regular diesel. Prices are high here in NY. Den

[ProGunProgressive]

Originally Posted by Marc

the 6.0 that had the major problems was running pump bio. i have seen many 7.3's run it with no problem....but for some reason the 6.0's dont seem to be able to handle it as well. on the ford website there is a message board and on there it seems as though im not the only one to see problems from it. Homeade BIO would definately be a no no in them, but from what ive personally seen in trucks i wouldnt run commercial bio in a 6.0 either........sorry to say it since you seem to be big on it....but 6.0 injectors are SO picky about fuel quality, lubricity, ETC that i honestly can say that if i owned one i wouldnt run bio of any sort.....Marc

Wanted to see if you'd learned anything more about this. The comment about lubricity doesn't make any sense to me. Biodiesel, even when not all that well made, is universally going to be more lubricative than dino diesel across the board. If you're running into problems, I'm going to guess lubrication isn't one of them.

My guess is fuel quality as well, but that's all the more reason to make it yourself. You can make sure it's washed properly to remove particulate matter, excess methanol, etc. Commercial manufacturers don't give a rat's patootie what happens to your motor, whereas it's your wallet if you don't wash and dry your bio properly.

[dgainer]

No I have'nt learned any more than you. Everyone I tlak to says 5% like they told you. I've been running 5% soy for over a year now and have not had a problem. I really don't know why you can't run higher. $2.99 here in Pa for 5%, In our state it's taxes that run everything up so whigh. I have a brother-in-law that lives in Cheyenne, Wy. and he's paying 2.60 right now. And they even have good raods, go figure. Dave

[ProGunProgressive]

Figures. Like any new product that comes along, there's lots of speculation and misinformation out there. Lots of the negative things you hear about bio are probably true for bio that isn't properly made (read: washed and dried), but properly made bio is a solvent that'll make your truck run cleaner than ever.