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Price: $525.00

This is aparently new from df.

i wonder if this will work if i do a diy veggie kit with this controler.

anyone else seen this or used it?

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Dino Fuel Alternatives | Product Detail



Price: $525.00

This is aparently new from df.

i wonder if this will work if i do a diy veggie kit with this controler.

anyone else seen this or used it?

I have used these a bunch of times with good success.

http://www.greasecar.com/product_detail.cfm?prodID=39

Greasecar Vegetable Fuel Systems
The LCD indicates which fuel it is on, engine temp, VO temp, switches automatically to VO and purges.

Usually just a three way switch will work fine, but if automation is your thing have at it.

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i dont mind a manual system. but auto is kinda neat lol.


why is that GC lcd only $45?

their whole kit is 2300 atm with tank vs v3 3200 wo tank.

and then add a 1500 CF setup on top of that since i dont have that yet.


its either a diy and build over time or 5k up front.

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I highly recomend that you do not purchase the GC kit. Tank, yes, co-pilot yes, filter housing yes, the kit , NO.

The only components left on my system out of the kit is the filter housing (nice component) and the tank (nice as well).

Their theory on PSD's leaves a tremendous amount to be desired.

In fact it sucks (fuel). I can elaborate if anyone needs a $.02 cent tour of their mess.

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so what happened with your kit? and what are you running now?

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so what happened with your kit? and what are you running now?
Well, remnants from the GC kit are in use in my truck now, after an extensive system remodel.



Well, the GC company began with VW's and Benz. They adapted the system onto the PSD. Well, the only thing similar between VW/Benz and PSD is the fact that they all burn diesel. Thats about it.

1) The tanks are designed for HIH. (Good)
2) The filter is under the hood and use coolant to heat. (Good)
3) Pex line is supplied for HIH (OK) buti ts 1/4" (Bad)
4) Then things go south fast. THe factory fuel pump is relocated in the kit (very bad for the D2 side) and just as bad for the Vo system. Bothe fuels share the same pump. Stock fuel pumps do not handle VO very well. The relocation requires the pump to suck fuel (VO and D2) through the filters. It dont work too well. Then, the stock fuel pressure regulator is used (bad) and two valves are added. The valves are good for VW/Benz, but do not allow for enough flow reauired to keep the PSD's thirst requirements.

Performance faults in the GC kit
1) The fuel bowl is only about half full, because the fuel is sucked through it.
2) The VO filter suffers the same problem.
3) THe valves are too small for a 7.3
4) The PEX line in the HIH is too small
5) Only the stock pump is used and it is not up to what is being asked of it

In conclusion, use some components in the GC kit if you want to do a DIY kit. There is a little good in it. Otherwise- stay away from the GC kit for the 7.3. However, if you want a great kit for the 99.5-2003 VW ALH, you cant beat their system IMHO. I have done lots of them and they do a great job with a few modifications.

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PEX is for plumbing...........................IN A HOUSE!!

I'd be leary to use it in a home filtration system
Id REFUSE to use it in my truck!!!

I didnt know there were any kits that did that.

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PEX is for plumbing...........................IN A HOUSE!!

I'd be leary to use it in a home filtration system
Id REFUSE to use it in my truck!!!

I didnt know there were any kits that did that.
I have used it on my gravity CF set up and in conversion kits. Without troubles. I sould not use it under high heat/high pressure without some testing though.

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I have used it on my gravity CF set up and in conversion kits.
I can see using it in a filtration system.... Id just keep my eyes on it

Buttt ... on a vehicle ???

Im not trying to be an a$$ I just didnt know this was even possible.

Where and what is PEX used for on a conversoin???? VO??

And you use things like glue, couplings, and 90's ???
These fittings never come apart? PEX never cracks?

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I can see using it in a filtration system.... Id just keep my eyes on it

Buttt ... on a vehicle ???

Im not trying to be an a$$ I just didnt know this was even possible.

Where and what is PEX used for on a conversoin???? VO??

And you use things like glue, couplings, and 90's ???
These fittings never come apart? PEX never cracks?
Orange pex 3/8 OD for HIH on VW.
I have PVC and glued fitings on my CF. It has 10K gallons through it and over 4 years of steady use. I would say that was a good test.

I use PVC and glue overhead in my attached garage for fueling my personal vehicles. It is over head and has constant pressure via a pressure switch, no problems yet.

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