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post #1 of 12 Old 06-03-2010, 10:19 AM Thread Starter
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small pump suggestion

Hey guys, I also posted this over at frybrid. Sorry for the duplicate for those of you that follow both forums.

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Hi folks,

I'm hoping you can help me choose a pump. Here's my setup:

"Dirty" tank in the bed of my truck, heated with a coolant fed heat exchanger >> electrically heated Racor 1000 >>> "Clean" tank under the cab.

**Please, no flames about onboard filtering or the racor.

For the most part, this is gravity fed. The oil goes through the filter at a slow pace while I drive. I think gravity does this as well as vaccuum that the fuel pump pulls on the clean tank.

I do need a little electric pump to get the siphon going when I start driving. I have been using a Tuthill 1614, but burned it up by accident. (stupid me).

I am hoping to replace it with something cheaper, since that pump is overkill for what I need.

So, here is what I'm looking for: an inexpensive pump that can easily mount to the bed of my truck. Flow rate is not important, but it needs to be strong enough to get the oil moving through the filter so the siphon can take over.

My ideas so far:

Replace it with another tuthill 1614 because I already have a mounting bracket, but don't really want to spend another $140.00.

Grab a fuel pump from the junkyard, maybe from a 99 - 03 superduty.


What other suggestions do you all have?

Many thanks!

'96 F-250, 230k
Custom SVO Conversion (check valves)
On board filtration
80k SVO miles and counting!
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The Airtex E8012S is what many use in non-PSD conversions as an inexpensive auxiliary lift pump for VO. I have one in my 300D. About $30 at Auto Zone so the price is great.

This link below will give you the psi specs on all their electric fuel pumps.
Don't freak out if it says 5/16". Just replace the hose barb with 3/8".
The E8090 comes with 3/8" but it's almost twice the price of the E8012S with the same specs.
http://www.airtexproducts.com/TSB/TSB-0108-01_ATX.pdf

Others have used a Carter generic inline pump (14psi) with good success.
~$38 at Advance Auto Parts .

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killer, thanks for the suggestion! I like that, it's simple, cheap, and I can replace it when I screw up and burn it out.

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Sorry Charlie but the price went up since I bought mine.
AutoZone.com | | Fuel Pump
You can find it for less if you look hard enough.

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I'm headed to the store in the AM, I'll get this installed tomorrow and let you know how it works.

Thanks!

BTW, it's summer in the desert now! I pulled my trailer to flagstaff and back this weekend. No problem keeping that oil hot in 105 degree heat.

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I'm headed to the store in the AM, I'll get this installed tomorrow and let you know how it works.

Thanks!

BTW, it's summer in the desert now! I pulled my trailer to flagstaff and back this weekend. No problem keeping that oil hot in 105 degree heat.
I'm sure it will work great for your use. You may want it on a switch.

That reminds me of a time when I was in Tucson during summer parked at my brother's house. By late afternoon it was so hot that the scent of VO emanated from all around my truck and a swarm of desert locust type insects literally attacked me and my truck. It was like the bible plague. Until sundown I couldn't get near the vehicle again. And I know I can't take this truck to Yosemite either. Damn bears!

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I'm sure it will work great for your use. You may want it on a switch.

That reminds me of a time when I was in Tucson during summer parked at my brother's house. By late afternoon it was so hot that the scent of VO emanated from all around my truck and a swarm of desert locust type insects literally attacked me and my truck. It was like the bible plague. Until sundown I couldn't get near the vehicle again. And I know I can't take this truck to Yosemite either. Damn bears!
now thats a headline i would like to see... "Bear eats mans truck..." hey mike, you might not need the hounds anymore...

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Got the little guy purchased and installed today. I do have it on a switch. Seems like it will work great! I wire it to a switch on the dash to get things started, then I also have a ball valve on the filter, so that I can shut off flow it the tank gets maxed out.

Thanks for the tips, and don't let your truck get eaten by bears, locusts, or other such pestilence!

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On board filtration
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and don't let your truck get eaten by bears, locusts, or other such pestilence!
So far so good!

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Charlie the Airtex fuel pump finally crapped out after 1-1/2 years. It was on my diesel side (in the Mercedes) and I believe the problem was it couldn't handle B100 over a long time. But since it is priced reasonable I replaced it. How is yours working out on VO?

1997 F-350 7.3L PSD - 326K miles - 40+K on VO - Plant Drive Kit
1984 Mercedes 300D NA - 160K miles - 10+K on VO - Custom Two Tank
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