Burning Stove oil?

[95PDXLT]

Hi Guys newbie here. I've heard of alot of people running stove oil in their diesel trucks and addind atf. I've done a search and the atf eats up seals. Is it safe to run stove oil with some sort of additive?

Thanks

[Badfish740]

I'm guessing you mean either home heating oil or kerosene. If you're talking about home heating oil like you would burn in an oil burner, technically, yes-it will work and will be safe to use-for your engine anyway. However, home heating oil is ILLEGAL to burn in an on road vehicle because it is not sold with the appropriate road taxes applied to it. In short, you could be nailed for evading road taxes and the fines are stiff!

If you are talking about kerosene the answer is no. Putting straight K1 into a diesel even with an additive would be risky at best and catastrophic at worst. K1 is sold in some places as an anti-gel, but oftentimes it is also untaxed and therefore illegal to use.

[95PDXLT]

yup i was meaning home heating oil. I'll be doing snow removal which will be off road. Since it is dual tanks i was planning on running 1 with home heating oil and the other with diesel. The fines here are $400 cdn. I've only known a couple to get caught and they had the tank with a pump in the box.

Do you need to run an additive?

Thanks

[Badfish740]

Heating oil is #2 diesel that's been dyed red to enable it to be distinguished from on-road fuel. The sulfur content is going to be higher, but that isn't going to hurt your engine. As with on-road diesel it wouldn't hurt to use an additive. As for using off-road diesel for snowplowing, the dye stays in your fuel system for a very long time, so you're still playing with fire. Once you get back on the road there's a chance you could caught and fined. As I've said here before its not just a matter of saving a couple of cents on road tax, its also a judgement call. The road tax on diesel goes directly to paying for road repair. I'll pay the tax because I use the road and I complain when there are potholes.

[DKR]

Originally Posted by Badfish740

Heating oil is #2 diesel that's been dyed red to enable it to be distinguished from on-road fuel. The sulfur content is going to be higher, but that isn't going to hurt your engine. As with on-road diesel it wouldn't hurt to use an additive. As for using off-road diesel for snowplowing, the dye stays in your fuel system for a very long time, so you're still playing with fire. Once you get back on the road there's a chance you could caught and fined. As I've said here before its not just a matter of saving a couple of cents on road tax, its also a judgement call. The road tax on diesel goes directly to paying for road repair. I'll pay the tax because I use the road and I complain when there are potholes.

...only place we use "heating oil" is in our ag tractors if we forget to have our on site diesel tank refilled.

[SCUFFY828]

i have a 89 7.3idi truck i run 100% used trans fluid in ,i get the fluid from trans services here at the dealer , also 100% free, runs geat i do change filter every oil change though

[Badfish740]

Interesting. I had heard of people running waste ATF as opposed to waste motor oil. Maybe in the IDI it's ok, but I'd be pretty leery of trying it with a DI engine. A word of caution though-if your tank were to be dipped you could get hassled because A: it will appear as though you are using off-road fuel, and B: it may still be illegal. There are exceptions to the rules which allow homebrewers of fuels such as biodiesel and ethanol to produce and use their own fuel up to a certain amount per year without having to pay tax on it. Whether or not that would apply to using a waste product never intended to be used as a motor fuel I'm not sure.

Not that I'm advocating illegal activity, but "dipping" or checking for diesels trying to buck the road tax happens mostly to big rigs out on the highway. However, a police officer can dip you at a traffic stop if he wants to. Also, most smaller trucks/pickups get nailed in places where large amounts of diesel pickups are gathered in one spot such as livestock/equipment auctions, horse shows, etc...

[SCUFFY828]

im aware of that , but if they test it what can they say about trans fluid , dont know myself

[SCUFFY828]

oh yeah by the way , wouldnt suggest runnin it a di engine dont believe they would be able to stand it without injector problems

[Maintain]

Trucks were getting dipped on 213 this past summer... near galena. Big horse area...