with the trouble Chrysler are already in, Unless cumins foots this bill, Chrysler, Ram might be under bankruptcy proceedings soon. I'll keep an eye out for shareholder filling..... I have 1 share with Chrysler, as i do with GM and i have a bunch of ford shares, Just like to get the inside scoop from the other big 2 from newsletters.
It will be interesting to see where this goes. My question is, if FCA is under scrutiny, are they going to look @ everyone else? Ya know, Just to make sure!
Seriously... this over regulation is driving me nuts! Yes we should be good Stewart's of our resources but if vehicles are broken down leaking coolant and oil from all the failed emissions components how much good are they doing? Coal powered boats ship parts from overseas, leaky diesel trucks deliver to parts warehouses, where leaky battery and diesel forklifts move them around blah blah blah sorry lol.
to me the worst part s diesel unmolested does not pollute the air :doh: it settles out and breaks down but it is high in benzine which is a nasty carcinogen
What gets me is, that my neighbors with their Cummins's are always telling me how inferior my no good Powerstroke is. They then go into how great their fuel economy is (always 25 mpg) and how reliable their straight 6 is over my junkie V8.
How are they going to explain this one?
You know, they will be getting a check from Chrysler over this fiasco for reduced vehicle valuations. The VW owners have.
I keep seeing GM & Chrysler have millions and millions of recalls. These recalls draw needed resources away from the product going out the door, and their quality drops more all the time, then they start doing stupid stuff, like building a Prowlers or 700 hp Challengers to generate positive press for themselves all the while taking their eye off the ball, which is building a good solid truck.
Ford has done just that. They've kept their eye on the ball, and one by one I'm seeing the overwhelming number of Dodge Boys in my area driving Fords. They tell me that the Ford is just building a better truck, and they were tired of the Dodge breaking on them.
I have to say, the old 5.9 12 valve, and 24 valve were impressive engines, but Chrysler is having some issues with these 6.7 Cummins's.
I guess Ford knew what they were doing some years ago. They owned controlling interest in Cummins and could have used the Cummins in their Super Duty if they wanted. It made me scratch my head when they decided to build their own engine and subsequently developed the Scorpion. Now I know why.
You do know that 700 horsepower Challenger are pieces pieces of junk. The motor is great but much like their diesel trucks they didn't put anything around it that can hold that much power. People are literally breaking them as they leave the dealership and romp on it really hard
glad i have a non emissioned truck. i've always bought non e'd cummins trucks,
too. just too much of a pain in the arse with having to delete, then worry about
visuals.
not surprised that we will start to see more and more volkswagen type issues
being found over the next little while.
The VW and Dodge truck owners are not alone. Google International Maxxforce if you'd like to read about some horror stories :rofl:. Relying on EGR only did not work out too well for them either.
I drove a maxxforce powered truck working for Caterpillar International within 20k miles we had a emissions device take out a good chunk of the fuel system, and they through me into an old Peterbuilt! I loved it but learning the 18 speeds was kind of tough haha.
Most of the issues with the 6.7 Cummins are emissions related just like the 6.4 and 6.7 power strokes and new Duramaxes. If you do a dpf and egr delete with good tuning the 6.7 cummins is just as reliable as the 5.9 was.
If it gets that far they will contact you by registered mail. If you get one of those little green cards in the mail telling you to go to the Post Office you might want to go and get it. I just went through a similar class action with Hyundai over them lying about their fuel economy on the window sticker.
Problem is with stuff like this is I feel like the EPA is more likely to scrutinize, even further, light duty diesels in general. It just makes for a bigger target I'd think
I was just reading over on a Cummins site that this law suit is being met with a smile by Fiat/Ram. The reason being that the head guy at Fiat, Sergio Marchione, wants to put Fiats' Diesel Engines in the Ram Pickups eventually and the lawsuit will most likely make that happen.
This is sad. Fiat is going to kill a good truck by taking the Cummins out of it.
Agreed. I'd hate to see that happen to the Ram. The Italians might like the truck with the Fiat engine, but I can tell you that us Americans will see that as a four letter F-word engine and it won't spell Fiat. I don't think the Europeans understand us very well.
Competition is good for everyone, and Ram has been a fierce competitor. They've helped bring out the best in the diesel truck world.
Trump nominated Scott Pruit for EPA, hopefully he'll ease up a little on all these overbearing regulations.
My buddy owns a VW 2.8l he's making out pretty good right now.
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