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Old 02-04-2008, 02:29 PM
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And the plot thickens - DP vs Wildman Price

Ok, this is driving me nuts.

I spent HOURS yesterday reading everything and anything I could find on DP and TW, and I've come to the conclusion that they are both pretty much equal performance wise, and customer service wise (6 of one, half dozen of the other). I could not find anything that told me convincingly otherwise. The only real difference I found was that if I mod my truck TW will update my tune at no cost whereas DP wants a little cash to do so. I do not see this as being a big deal though either way because I don't "plan" on modding it.

So for me at this point, it is coming down to price and what I get for that price.

So here are my questions:

Am I correct in my assumption that I can get the stock and no-start tunes on a DP-Tuner chip for no additional charge?

If so, that's great just for the ease of using stock if you ever needed it and the added benefit of having a no start on position 0 (especially cool if you take your switch out of the truck because it defaults to pos0).

I have no idea if TW does this or not, but it doesn't appear to be a non-additional charge item, though I'm pretty sure TW could create whatever I want.

So here are the tunes I want from each perspective tuner with the prices before shipping.

Tony Wildman:

Chip
  • Toggle switch
  • 6 Position Chip
Tunes
  • Economy
  • Light Tow (not sure if these are adjusted for altitude or not? I'm at 4200' before leaving my driveway)
  • Heavy Tow (not sure if these are adjusted for altitude or not? I'm at 4200' before leaving my driveway)
  • Hi-Idle
Price: $425.00 + Shipping -- If I add stock it's an additional $25 ($450 + shipping).

DP-Tuner:

Chip
  • DP F5 Remote Switcher
  • DP Remote Switcher mount
  • DP Chip
Tunes
  • No-Start (no additional cost)
  • Stock (no additional cost)
  • Econo 80
  • 60 HP Tow (high altitude - 9k - 13k)
  • 80 HP Tow (high altitude - 5k - 9k)
  • Hi-Idle (1200) (wouldn't mind some recommendations on a good idle setting to choose here, and why...).
Price: $414.90 + Shipping

So my conclusion is that the DP is the better bang for the buck. I get a no-start and stock for no additional charge, a cooler looking switch (not a deal make or breaker for me, but nice none the less), similar tuning performance, and similar great customer service for less $$, and the ability to add up to 16 total tunes (at a cost of course, but the ability none the less).

Is there a reason I shouldn't go with DP-Tuner instead of TW? I was really sold on the TW, but with all things being equal, the $$ speaks for its self for what I want.

Comments? Concerns? Anything I overlooked?

Also, this is NOT meant to turn into a bashing session, so please don't go there.

Thanks for all the help I've received up to this point. I really feel I'm making an educated well researched purchase here that will leave me with an SFG either way.

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i went dp for pretty much the same reasons you stated and i love it and wish id have done it sooner plus ordered it mon it was in my truck at lunch time weds hes in ga im in oh thats fast service in my book
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I thought tw was cheaper then that? for only 4 tunes?
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I am in the same boat, I am ready to buy but dont know who to go with... its hard when you have two good companies..
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the $ difference gives you that personal experience versus a buy it off the shelf from DP, if had a 7.3, the TW would be for me.
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I thought tw was cheaper then that? for only 4 tunes?
That's from Raul's site -- Not sure if TW's site is less, as I didn't check.
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I am in the same boat, I am ready to buy but dont know who to go with... its hard when you have two good companies..
Boy do I HEAR that!
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the $ difference gives you that personal experience versus a buy it off the shelf from DP, if had a 7.3, the TW would be for me.
Huh? DP and off the shelf in the same sentence? I was not aware that DP was just going to send me a pre-made tune. I 'thought' they were all custom for my truck (EX in this case). You can't drop a bomb like that and not provide more information. Would you mind elaborating?

Hear say, holds no water with me, I need proof, if you don't have it, don't post it.
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Like I have said before, I love my DP. If anything makes these 7.3's run better I would have to ride in it to believe it!! Thats being as honest as I can be.
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off the shelf is news to me too you call and talk to jody directly he asks tons of questions like whats been done what are you gonna do how do you drive what do you tow how do you want it to shift shift points tc lock up and answers every question you have hardly off the shelf ts maybe dp no dont think so plus he does live tuning and custom tweeks for sled pulling which i have as well and love as well a dp is NOT an off the shelf chip
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and i might add dp is what strokinearly99 runs and thats no off the shelf truck
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the $ difference gives you that personal experience versus a buy it off the shelf from DP, if had a 7.3, the TW would be for me.
That's like saying DJ uses off the shelf SCT tunes.

I'm a DP cheerleader, so I won't throw my 2 cents in. I will recommend you call and talk to both guys. Either way, you'll be driving a new truck.
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