Ok, this is driving me nuts.
I spent HOURS yesterday reading everything and anything I could find on DP and TW, and I've come to the conclusion that they are both pretty much equal performance wise, and customer service wise (6 of one, half dozen of the other). I could not find anything that told me convincingly otherwise. The only real difference I found was that if I mod my truck TW will update my tune at no cost whereas DP wants a little cash to do so. I do not see this as being a big deal though either way because I don't "plan" on modding it.
So for me at this point, it is coming down to price and what I get for that price.
So here are my questions:
Am I correct in my assumption that I can get the stock and no-start tunes on a DP-Tuner chip for no additional charge?
If so, that's great just for the ease of using stock if you ever needed it and the added benefit of having a no start on position 0 (especially cool if you take your switch out of the truck because it defaults to pos0).
I have no idea if TW does this or not, but it doesn't appear to be a non-additional charge item, though I'm pretty sure TW could create whatever I want.
So here are the tunes I want from each perspective tuner with the prices before shipping.
- Toggle switch
- 6 Position Chip
Price: $425.00 + Shipping
- Light Tow (not sure if these are adjusted for altitude or not? I'm at 4200' before leaving my driveway)
- Heavy Tow (not sure if these are adjusted for altitude or not? I'm at 4200' before leaving my driveway)
-- If I add stock it's an additional $25 ($450 + shipping).
- DP F5 Remote Switcher
- DP Remote Switcher mount
- DP Chip
Price: $414.90 + Shipping
- No-Start (no additional cost)
- Stock (no additional cost)
- Econo 80
- 60 HP Tow (high altitude - 9k - 13k)
- 80 HP Tow (high altitude - 5k - 9k)
- Hi-Idle (1200) (wouldn't mind some recommendations on a good idle setting to choose here, and why...).
So my conclusion is that the DP is the better bang for the buck. I get a no-start and stock for no additional charge, a cooler looking switch (not a deal make or breaker for me, but nice none the less), similar tuning performance, and similar great customer service for less $$, and the ability to add up to 16 total tunes (at a cost of course, but the ability none the less).
Is there a reason I shouldn't go with DP-Tuner instead of TW? I was really sold on the TW, but with all things being equal, the $$ speaks for its self for what I want.
Comments? Concerns? Anything I overlooked?
Also, this is NOT meant to turn into a bashing session, so please don't go there.
Thanks for all the help I've received up to this point. I really feel I'm making an educated well researched purchase here that will leave me with an SFG either way.
2001 Excursion Limited 7.3 PSD
4" Exhaust, Ford AIS Filter and Box
DP-Tuner F5 - Current Chip
Diablo Chip (not being used)
Superchips 1705 tuner (My code reader)
Broken Tranny as of 01/29/2011 --> New John Wood Trans shortly after. So far it's been awesome, spendy, but awesome.
Tire: Michelin LTX M/S2 LT275/70R18
**First PSD - Purchased 1/2/2008
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