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Old 04-07-2014, 06:30 AM
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Exclamation Truck won't crank or turn over. Replaced starter solenoid and still nothing.

Had an issue this morning after my truck ran flawlessly yesterday. Went to start, no crank or turn over whatsoever. It goes through the normal WTS and makes all the normal sounds and the starter relay clicks as well. When I turn the key, it makes no noise except the metal click/tink noise. Tried it 5-10 times, same result each time.

Sound like a start solenoid that just went bad?

Any feedback is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!


EDIT: The truck is a 2001 automatic F250. Replaced the solenoid and it did not fix anything. Also checked all fuses and look good as well as the transmission range sensor and it was aligned properly. When the key is turned on, the starter solenoid clicks so it is getting power.

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Old 04-07-2014, 06:42 AM
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You say the "starter relay clicks as well". Where is this? Depending on yr (which you should include) you either have one in the fusebox or the pass side fenderwell, or are you talking about the starter itself?

Are you sure that's what you hear?

If it's an Automatic (something else you need to let us know ) have you tried putting the shift selector in N or holding it Up Past P?

You can also have someone watch the Headlights (turn them ON) and see what happens when you try to start. Do they Dim? Go OUT? Remain unchanged?
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Old 04-07-2014, 07:04 AM
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Year is a 2001 and it is automatic. The relay noise that clicks came from the fuse box in the cab by the drivers legs.

I did try the shifting part but a little differently. I ran it multiple times through all positions trying to see if it would line up correctly and could not get it to start in park.

Usually my lights and everything (including my gauges/touch screen) go out when starting the truck. It does the same, minus cranking/turning over.
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Last time this happened to me it was one of the 2 pink fuses..I believe the 13 amp...I will look at mine and post its position and size.

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Old 04-07-2014, 07:27 AM
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Awesome, thank you guys so much. I have to drive down to an airport tomorrow so I am hoping I can get this fixed by then.
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Old 04-07-2014, 07:29 AM
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Well, in an '01, the starter relay can be in either place You'd see it under the hood though, it's hard to miss If you have a Trans Temp Gauge in the Cluster then your starter relay is in the fusebox, but, there are many others there to that might be making that noise...

If you turn on the headlights, they should be bright white and NOT go out when you crank. If they do, it's an indication that your problem has to do with Power not able to activate the starter (bad batteries, cables, ends, or even a "stuck" starter)

Go have someone watch those headlights.

Sometimes, you can "fix" (temporarily) a failing starter by jarring it's insides. Take a hammer and go under the truck and give the starter motor a few good "whacks". This actually works sometimes
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Old 04-07-2014, 07:39 AM
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Is the starter relay the same thing as the starter solenoid? I may have confused the two.

I thought the relay was the large black fuse looking thing while the solenoid was on the inner fender on the passenger side.
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Old 04-07-2014, 08:00 AM
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Solenoid/Relay, kinda the same thing...

They both switch a small amount of power to a large amount. The "black fuse looking thing" is a relay. The thing under the hood is too but often called a solenoid (though, as I said, they do the exact same thing). BUT, there's another one on the starter itself called the Bendix. It's a solenoid that moves the starter gear into place.

Here's the thing, in order to help you, and stop all the guessing, you have to tell us what's going on.

Do the headlight dim?

What kind of starter relay do you have? (it's one or the other in an '01)

Find the relay and confirm it's moving (clicking) a blown fuse or bad Neutral Safety sw and it won't. This info will point us in the right direcetion but YOU need to supply it
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Old 04-07-2014, 02:27 PM
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The headlights do not dim or change brightness at all when I turn the key to on.

I just replaced the starter solenoid (in the passenger fender) and it has the exact same symptoms. I also checked all fuses possibly related to this issue and found no blown fuses.

Not sure this actually has a relay and the solenoid, but rather just a solenoid.

I will be checking to see if I can check the neutral safety part.

Edit: Checked the transmission range sensor and it is in proper alignment. Both batteries also show 12.5V

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Old 04-07-2014, 03:19 PM
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OK, so there IS no fuse on your '01 (later ones had Nothing under the hood, just a small relay, that was fused, and that you Do Not have in yours).

Before you replaced that you should have manually jumped it to see if it was the problem.

The lights not dimming means there's an interruption in the flow from the Key to the starter (minus the new solenoid). In most cases it's the NSSW but, if you tried all positions it would have to be unplugged or something. Could be the Ign sw but they tend to crap-out slowly not all-at-once...

Did you try "whacking" the starter motor?
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