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Old 02-06-2014, 09:03 AM
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electrical : no engine light, no wait to start light, no start.

Has anyone had this problem? 1999 psd. When key on engine off, no check engine light or wait to start. Cranks but no start. Connected o.b.d. scanner and will not connect. Checked all fuses, all good. I installed a friend's working I.d.m. to rule that out. Any ideas?
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:05 AM
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By the way I started it up fine and drove it for about 2 minutes and that's when it just shut off on me and didn't start back up.
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:27 AM
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I know you're not gonna like hearing this,,,, But, you would be joining a long-list of others that said "Checked all fuses, all good." and later found one that wasn't

Make sure, check #'s 30-21-19 especially anything associated with the PCM because, what you're describing is caused by the computer not running...
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:55 AM
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Also on the fuses. Use a test light. In my experience sometimes one won't fully blow. It will have an arch in it visually but with a test light one side will be bright, the other will be dim. Good luck.


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Thanks I'll check again
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Old 02-06-2014, 03:44 PM
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Checked the fuses again like you recommended with a power probe and sure enough found a blown fuse. The pcm/Idm relay coil fuse. I asked a Ford diesel tech I know about it and he had me check the fuel heater. When I unplug the heater, the fuse doesn't blow. When the heater is plugged in and I turn the key on, the fuse blows right away. I changed the fuel heater and the problem still exists
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That's Very strange,,, if you don't plug the heater IN, everything's OK though?

If so, you Really don't need it connected, Many people here (in Very Cold Climates) don't have a Fuel Heater connected. If I were You, I'd simply leave it unplugged and worry about it later
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Old 02-06-2014, 04:59 PM
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That was the other thing. It seemed as if this truck really hates cold fuel. With it unplugged, it barely started and wouldn't stay running linger than 8 seconds. I come to the assumption that it needs to be plugged in but I probably have a short somewhere. Time to start digging
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Old 02-07-2014, 06:22 AM
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You sure you replaced the fuse with the right one?

Also, the heater prevents "waxing" in, regular, diesel. Today, with ULSD, it's less of a problem and maybe the reason it's not as "needed" now as when the system was designed.

Cold Starting problems aren't really about fuel temp. Diesels are just Hard to start in cold (not sure How cold it is where you are) and plugging-in is most often a sign that the Glow Plug System isn't working properly.

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Old 02-11-2014, 06:15 AM
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I'm in New England this winter has been in the single digits. The fuse for the fuel heater is the same one for the pcm relay coil and Idm relay coil, hence why everything shut down. I have found that it doesn't start hard without it and the only reason it did originally was because there was no fuel in the bowl. Once it started and filled back up it was fine. The truck has been fine since then I am still going to find the short in the fuel heater system wiring when I have some time anyways but until then it is going to work. I appreciate all the help
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