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Died while driving

I was coming back home yesterday and the truck just died, no sputtering nothing. I was low on fuel but not enough to be out. Pulled into a driveway and after about 5 tries cranking it started. Pulled in to gas station and threw some fuel in. Started right up and died again. Same scenario, cranked a few times and started. Went back to work and then when I left work same thing, no start. After cranking again about 5 times started, made it home let it idle for about 20 min. This morning she started right up. Went to work no problems. Went to leave for lunch no start. Cranked about 5 time and she started. Came home thinking it was a bad CPS, had a spare put it in and no start after cranking about 8 times.... WTH... Suggestions please or does she need a trip to the stealership.

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I have personal experience with a bad CPS out of the box, so that could still be the culprit as the items you described are the normal symptoms for this. Doe you have access to any scan tools so we can get some more info on the truck?

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No scan tools

What about the ICP or IPR? Could on of these be the culprit?

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Nothing better than seeing the look on the face of the kid driving the Mustang thru my rear view mirror.
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Ok I had another CPS and put it in (I had two spares) did not work. Pulled the plug from the ICP and had a decent amount of oil on it. Cleaned it out, sprayed and dried put back in...no start

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You may have a bad IDM thats what im dealing with in my OBS. I thought i had a bad cps too but no dice. im gonna swap my super duty IDM in tonight to see if thats the culprit. You should find someone with a working IDM and swap it in yours real quick(3 or 4 bolts and 1 bolt on the connector) and see if that fixes the problem. IDMs are compatible from 94.5-03 7.3 just so you know

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Change icp if it has oil in it

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Change icp if it has oil in it
Yes, even if this is not the culprit (which it could very well be) once they get oil in them they go bad quickly.

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UPDATE- Pulled Codes and More. Help

Ok so you all read the post about the truck just died while driving. Did not have a scanner so paid to have it scanned. Here is what I got back....

Scanned for codes- P0284, P0603, P0477, P1211, P1275

Here is what they said.

Found central junction box faulty and cutting power supply to the PCM when warm (could this be from cranking the crap out of it trying to get it to start?)

Found ICP Sensor leaking through the connector(yeah I found this out yesterday when I pulled the plug off)

HPOP Max output about 900psi below specs (perhaps because of a bad IPR)

Here is what they said I need;

ICP
IPR
HPOP
Central Junction Box

Thoughts on this, what does each code mean... Little assistance please

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RUN, don't walk, from those guys!

Find somebody who really knows these truck or take it to the dealership. These clowns are just looking-up the codes and wanting to replace Everything related.

Here's what it could also be;

284 from the grey CPS
603 from dead batteries or bad fuesible link connections
477 from EBPV tube carboned-up
1211 from the bullydogs programming
1275 UVCH connection or maybe even the new CPS (not sure on the CPS with a 1275)

If they change the IPR/ICP/HPOP it might fix the problem because you've just acquired an entire HiPres Oil system!

I think, chances are, they don't know what their doing and are just throwing parts (on YOUR dime) to fix it. It's just not possible you need ALL that.

When it dies you can unplug the ICP, as a Test, and the PCM will set a default value for the IPR to run with. If just unplugging makes it start, it was the ICP. You can remove and disassemble/clean the IPR to see if it fixes it before you buy another one (also check the plug for frayed wires or a lose "tin nut" that's allowing the coil to slide around). Look at the drivers side fenderwell top, next to the airbox, for a black cover (marked High Voltage or something) that is the transistion from the B+ to the fuseible links and a common failure point on an '02. ALL FOR FREE!

But, ultimately, if none of that has a problem, seek professional help from somebody else because those guys are gonna cost you because of their lack of 7.3 knowledge....
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RUN, don't walk, from those guys!

Find somebody who really knows these truck or take it to the dealership. These clowns are just looking-up the codes and wanting to replace Everything related.

Here's what it could also be;

284 from the grey CPS
603 from dead batteries or bad fuesible link connections
477 from EBPV tube carboned-up
1211 from the bullydogs programming
1275 UVCH connection or maybe even the new CPS (not sure on the CPS with a 1275)

If they change the IPR/ICP/HPOP it might fix the problem because you've just acquired an entire HiPres Oil system!

I think, chances are, they don't know what their doing and are just throwing parts (on YOUR dime) to fix it. It's just not possible you need ALL that.

When it dies you can unplug the ICP, as a Test, and the PCM will set a default value for the IPR to run with. If just unplugging makes it start, it was the ICP. You can remove and disassemble/clean the IPR to see if it fixes it before you buy another one (also check the plug for frayed wires or a lose "tin nut" that's allowing the coil to slide around). Look at the drivers side fenderwell top, next to the airbox, for a black cover (marked High Voltage or something) that is the transistion from the B+ to the fuseible links and a common failure point on an '02. ALL FOR FREE!

But, ultimately, if none of that has a problem, seek professional help from somebody else because those guys are gonna cost you because of their lack of 7.3 knowledge....
Great reply, thank you.

Yeah I when I looked at what they said I was a bit put off considering I was the one that told them what I thought the problem to be. Bummer is I have to wait until tomorrow to pick it up as it would not start. Didn't even think about pulling the plug on the ICP.

Again thanks for the great reply

2002 F250 7.3 PSD Crew Cab.
4" Borla exhaust with 5" tip
Airaid intake
BullyDog 6 Position 4 Bank Chip
AutoMeter Pyro & Boost on pilar

Nothing better than seeing the look on the face of the kid driving the Mustang thru my rear view mirror.
Dang I just got creamed by a truck
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