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Old 03-27-2012, 02:51 PM
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Ive got a 2002 f-350 powerstroke. It will start just fine when it is warm out but when it gets cold out it will not start. It will just sit there and turn over acting like it wants to start and have white smoke coming out the exhaust. I took it to the local diesel shop to have them take a look at it and they told me that the oil cooler is leaking and that is what is causing the problem. Its got new injectors, new glow plugs and new glow plug relays in it. He told me it will cost $400 for the repair and parts. What do you guys think? You think that could be the problem and is that a good price? Im supposed to tell him in the morning whether or not to do it so please respond with your comments!
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Old 03-27-2012, 03:58 PM
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the oil cooler having a leak wont effect it starting easy on warm days, and hard on cold days. Think about what an oil cooler does. takes hot oil from the engine, and has two small fuel lines that go through it. The hot oil heats up the fuel for easier igniting, and the cold fuel cools down the oil. When starting the truck, the oil isn't hot and thus has no effect in the fuels ignition. Are you sure he said oil cooler, and not HPOP (high pressure oil pump)?
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:05 PM
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But to answer your original question, $400 is actually a pretty fair price, seeing how a typical 7.3 cooler runs about $250, so paying 150 for making it their problem is fair.
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:15 PM
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I understand it sounded a little funny to me. I just dont understand what the issue could be then, i have been reading a ton of threads and everything they said that would cause it i have replaced.
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Not sure seven point three knows what he is talking about, maybe he miss read something in your post. The oil cooler does not have fuel lines running thru it! I have removed my oil cooler to fix a oil leak, this is a common problem. Again, mine was leaking oil on the ground. The oil cooler has antifreeze running thru it to cool the oil. That's all it does. There are two o rings on each end of the cooler and one gasket on each end where it mounts to the engine block. If yours is leaking you don't need a new oil cooler, you only need a repair kit. Go to dieselorings.com and you will find them there. You can do it yourself. Pretty easy if you are mechanically inclined a little bit. If your oil cooler is leaking antifreeze within the cooler, you would have oil and antifreeze mixing. Don't know a thing about this as to rather it would keep your engine from running. I can see how the cold could make it leak. When it's cold, metal contracts and orings contract and if they are wore out, they will leak. I have had fuel leaks and oil leaks that were worse on cold days than on warm days. If you do have a leak, it needs fixing. Start with that, if it don't solve your problem, it needed fixed anyway. Would I pay $500 for that, no. The oil cooler oring kit is $70.00 and it took me two hours to perform. $250 would be a fair price.
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:59 PM
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thanks codum for the input. any ideas on what could be causing it too act like that?
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Old 03-27-2012, 05:28 PM
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Did they tell you how they determined the oil cooler was leaking? How cold is it when it's not starting?
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Old 03-27-2012, 05:35 PM
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no they didnt, i dont think they are trying to screw me they are well known around here and ive taken all my vehicles to them and never had them try and screw me before. its been about 35-40 degrees around here and thats when it wont start. when it was seventy out the other day it started like it was no problem
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So if it's warm it runs fine? Have you plugged up the block heater when cold? Does it start fine after being plugged up for 3 hours?
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Old 03-27-2012, 05:42 PM
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ya if its warm it starts up no problem. i havnt plugged in the block heater, where i leave my truck parked i cant plug it in
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